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Help! I Have Too Many Clothes

How can you declutter when you have lots of clothes? Is there a rule we can apply to make the decluttering process easier in our wardrobes? Bonnie and Lily talk about why we often have an excessive amount of clothing and several strategies you can use to declutter this area of your home. This episode topic was requested by dozens of our followers on TikTok. If you’d like to suggest a topic, get in touch via our socials. EPISODE SHOW NOTES

Episode Transcript

Hello and welcome I am Bonnie, and I am Lily, and this is Little Home Organised, the
PodCast dedicated to helping you declutter, get organized, and reclaim time for the things
you love.

BONNIE: Yeah, you must really love me like I just wore some really, really crazy outfits

LILY: some weird outfits

BONNIE: I hate going shopping

LILY: Maybe because nothing fits. All these like women who are millennials are like I will
continue to wear my skinny jeans.

BONNIE: That is really funny

LILY: I will not part my hair down the center

MUSIC:

BONNIE: Hello and welcome this week we are talking about clothes, clothes, clothes, is your
hanging rail overflowing with stuff, are your wardrobe drawers filled to the brim, today we are
going to chat about why we have so much clothing, why turning off the tap is half the issue
and strategies you can use to declutter your wardrobe.

MUSIC:

LILY: Now today’s episode was actually inspired by a whole host of people who commented
on one of our video’s actually on several videos that we have on TikTok and said I need to
know what to do with my clothing, I have so much clothing and this question came up again
and again and again, and we decided alright we have to give you guys some tools and
strategies to get on top of your clothes.

BONNIE: You know what it is an issue for a lot of people, and I think sometimes it becomes
a bit of a societal norm that we just think, oh everybody has got too many clothes like
nobody is really dealing with it, but I can tell you, when you do downsize and declutter those
clothes oh man getting dressed is way faster

LILY: Well, it is true, like if you know that you can walk in there and you know the options
that you are working with, especially if you have a minimalist wardrobe or a capsule
wardrobe, it is going to be easier to get started.

BONNIE: Yeah, and I am really looking forward to talking about the capsule wardrobe

LILY: You would you minimalist you

BONNIE: I know I really love how things go together very easily, and especially if you do
have kids or spouses who have things like ASD, so they are on the autism spectrum
disorder, it is actually much easier for them to get dressed when they have a capsule type
wardrobe because then you know all the tops match the bottoms and you don’t have that
issue of them coming out in a bright red and Fluro orange kind of ensemble which my 6-
year-old has done repeatedly in the last few months.

LILY: I mean, I love red and Fluro orange, what are you talking about?

BONNIE: They go together so well, and like I point it out to him, and I say look at these 2
colours do you think they go together and he is like yeah they are fine. Ohhhh okay
LILY: Oh, bless him. So today, we are talking about all things clothing, and one of the first
things I wanted to talk about, of course, is why? Why do we have so much clothing? Why do
we think it is a problem that some people find it to be?

BONNIE: Well, not me personally anymore but when I was a teenager I loved to shop, and it
was funny like whenever it is like a right of passage when you are a teenager, and you can
get out of the house, and you can be with your friend, what do you do like you either go to
the movies, or you go shopping

LILY: Yeah, And trying on clothes with your girlfriends

BONNIE: Yeah, and I think that it is a lot of your identity, especially when you are a
teenager, but I find now, and it could be because I am pregnant with 3 children, I hate going
shopping

LILY: Maybe because nothing fits. Well we also have independence, you know we can drive
our cars and kind of go wherever and the thing that was cool about going to the shopping
center is your parents would drop you, alright I will be back here in 2 hours, and you are like
sweet let’s go to as many shops as we can

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: Let’s try on all these clothes, let’s find another way to express ourselves, and when
you are a teenager it is finally your opportunity to really find your own sense of identity, feel
good in your own skin, and so shopping is like a really cool way to do that and clothing, of
course, is a really cool way to express yourself.

BONNIE: It is when we take that, striving for independence and freedom and that buzz I
suppose of being at the shops and buying new things and we still are doing that, you know
in our older years that, that I guess probably ends up giving us too many clothes.
LILY: Yeah, well, I think back to some of the clothing that I had many years ago, and you
know you see it in a photo, and you think, oh I remember that, like I haven’t seen that in my
wardrobe for years but then there is also clothing that you may not have worn in years and
you come across it, and you are like oh that is 20 years old, I cannot believe that is still in
one piece and so there are lots of reasons that we end up with so much clothing and you
know one of them is we are like talking about your expression of self, you know it is a part of
your identity, you know I am someone who loves to wear maybe like Boho style clothing and
so when I go to a shop, and I spot something that fits that aesthetic, I am like oh yes I love
buying this and putting it on, I feel like it represents me, but on that note potentially you are
someone who just really loves to shop.

BONNIE: Yeah, and look, that could be the thing for you; if you get a buzz out of it, we get a
dopamine hit; there is a reason it is called shopping addiction because the dopamine hit we
do get when we buy or when we are getting ready to buy when you look at something, and
you think oh yeah I really like that and I want that, and I can afford that you have already got
that chemical been released in your brain and it is exactly the same as people who take
drugs so don’t think oh you know shopping is not an addiction it actually is, it is releasing the
same chemical

LILY: Well, you know that is why on social media, when they pop up their little notifications,
hmm someone has commented, someone has messaged, what have you that is actually, it
is giving you that dopamine rush as well. One of the reasons why TikTok is probably so
successful, one of the reasons why I am probably a little bit too obsessed with it at the
moment, it is distracting me from my studies, especially because for those of you who aren’t
aware and potentially you are a new listener and you are tuning in because of this, we
actually have just had a video go viral on TikTok and have had a new audience find us there,
some people who haven’t necessarily hear us before, so it has been really really exciting
and if that is you welcome, so clothing yes there is another thing I wanted to mention which
is just like the simplicity of our everyday living where we have different things we need to be
doing, going to work, going to the gym, ladies who lunch, whatever it might be

BONNIE: So different activities require different types of clothing.

LILY: Yeah

BONNIE: No longer can we get by with that one dress that you wear 6 days a week and then
a different dress on Sunday for church, like that kind of wardrobe does not exist anymore for
most people.

LILY: No, and I mean some might try to argue that you know that you can wear your yoga
pants for gym and potentially for work if you work from home and then every other day is
casual wear

BONNIE: We should put a link to that woman who jazzercise or you know the one where
they are wearing the exercise clothes all day because that is like a real
LILY: Have you been spying on me

BONNIE: I mean, I totally do it at the moment because I am pregnant and like tights are like
the most comfortable things, but yeah, there is this video that went around a couple of years
ago where it was all about women who wear their exercise gear all day long, and it is really
really funny, so we definitely have to link to that in the show notes

LILY: Oh, it is so true that they do, another reason you guys might have a lot of clothing, of
course, is if you live somewhere with a really varied climate, in Brisbane where we are, not
so much it is kind of like summer 9 months of the year and then less hot summer and then in
other parts of the world it is like snow, and then they have autumn or fall and you know then
a really hot summer, so you are going to need like huge big parkers and knitwear, and things
and beanies that we wouldn’t even own because looking at it would make us sweat.

BONNIE: I know, and it is so funny because you buy these things when you go to say
Melbourne or say Tasmania, and then you bring them home, and you think oh you know
there may be a couple of nights in the year where it is cold enough for me to wear this

LILY: Maybe I will go camping and wear it

BONNIE: This thick woolen coat and then you get to the coldest night of the year and you
put it on, and you are taking it off after 20 minutes because it is still way too hot like it is just
really interesting your climate really does depend on what you can keep in your wardrobe
and what you need to keep.

LILY: The other reason I think we end up with lots of stuff is because oftentimes in our
homes, a lot of items come in, and we aren’t mindful about balancing that with items that
then go out, so if you have only got capacity in your wardrobe on the hanging rail for let’s say
30 coat hangers, most of us aren’t thinking oh I have just brought in 5 new items that are
going to be hung up, that means I need to adjust things in here, and so we end up with really
rammed together wardrobes full of stuff because we are not really thinking about it

BONNIE: And I think we also at that point we don’t stop and realize that oh because I have
brought in you know 5 new items, I have got to get rid of 5 new items, usually when we go
shopping we think oh I need a new this that or the other and we buy it, but we don’t kind of
stop and take the time to actually assess what well I am actually buying this to replace that
because I don’t like it anymore, or it doesn’t fit or whatever we just kind of still leave that stuff
there and it just kind of gets pushed a bit further back in the wardrobe, and that is where we
do end up in a bit of a mess because we have this accumulation and there is no actual
drainage if you like of things leaving the home.

LILY: Yeah, and like this ties into that whole just in case mentality as well, right, because
when I find myself looking at clothing and being like, oh I need a pair of denim shorts
because I might have other pairs of shorts, but they are different colours, or oh no I will wear
them for a more casual occasion, oh those can be dressed up and we like have all these like
subcategories and subcategories, I might wear that and then of course all the other reasons
that come into play that you want to hold onto stuff to just in case.

BONNIE: I find in my particular case sometimes I will buy something new, but the old one is
not like a rag, and I have to spend money on it, and I don’t want to necessarily let go of it, so
I will just be like, oh that will be a house dress, you know oh those will be the pants
LILY: The lawn mowing top

BONNIE: Yeah yeah, and all of a sudden, you end up with like 15 of these painting, lawn
mowing shirts

LILY: Painting shirts, and you paint like once every 10 years.

BONNIE: Yeah yeah, and I mean, I am just so terrible at a painting I would never do it again.
SO it is funny, though, because we justify that we need something new and we buy it, but
then we still keep holding onto the old one because we can actually justify letting it go
because it is a waste. It is really crazy, isn’t it?

LILY: It is, and it results in us having so much stuff. So one of the things I think it is important
we talk about fiercely before we get to our break is, of course, how we stop the cycle of
things coming in mindlessly.

BONNIE: Yeah, so we developed a few years at Little Miss organized these awesome
questions, and we even print them out on cards and given them to some of our clients who
really need it, and they are called the stop before you shop questions and that basically, it is
a couple of questions that when you are out shopping our clients will take this card out and
they will actually read through those questions, and so if you are someone who has got a
shopping addiction this is really helpful for you as well just to have these questions in your
wallet, and the first one of this is:
What problem does this solve?

So say you have gone out and you have decided I need a new pair of shoes, what problem
does it actually solving, is it your old pair of shoes have worn out, and you need to replace
them, is it that you have started a new job and you need a particular pair of shoes that are
just for work, you know whether it is steel-capped boots or office shoes or whatever it might
be, what problem does this actually solve.

LILY: Second thing to ask is:
Do I already have something like it?
So are you bringing something in that is like an abundance of clutter?

BONNIE: Yeah yeah, and I think we are all guilty of doing this at times.

LILY: Oh, look at this white top, yeah no, but it is not as strappy as the other white top that I
have, and it kind of fits me here a bit differently?

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: And before you know it, you end up with 5 whites tops that are pretty similar.

BONNIE: Yeah, and I think of a client in particular that we have had over the last couple of
years who had 57 pairs of jeans and all were staying, but they were all slightly different and
yeah, in jeans you can go from being white to light denim to all the way down to blue and
black denim and yeah your different cuts and different embellishments and things like that
but yeah you have to stop and think okay when is enough enough and we will talk about that
today how to do that mathematical equation I suppose of working out how many we actually
need.

LILY: You have just touched on a very interesting but a relevant point. Do you know like the
young youth of today think skinny jeans are really dated

BONNIE: Really?

LILY: And it is all about mum jeans

BONNIE: You are kidding me

LILY: And it is funny because obviously we are mums and we are still wearing skinny jeans
and now all like the youth are wearing mum jeans

BONNIE: SO are they the ones that look like they are the jeans from the 90’s.

LILY: Yeah, with that really high waisted and like the weird length

BONNIE: And they flair out, and they are not very flattering on your bottom unless you have
no bottom.

LILY: It is a look

BONNIE: Yeah Yeah

LILY: So all these like women who are like millennials are like I protest this I will continue to
wear my skinny jeans

BONNIE: That is really funny

LILY: I will not part my hair down the centre, youth-man telling us we are out of fashion who
do they think they are.

BONNIE: I am sure we did it

LILY: I know that is the funny part is we did it, we did it, and it wasn’t that long ago. The next
question to ask yourself and stop before you shop is
Am I buying something I actually genuinely need?

BONNIE: Yeah, and quite often the answer is no, no you are not, you’re just buying because
it is on sale and you think it is a bargain, but the reality is if you didn’t actually need it, you
are not saving any money by buying something on sale you are just spending more money.

LILY: Yeah, next question:
Is it good quality?

This is the thing where again sales we get drawn in, sucked in by them often end up buying
more of the cheaper things that get worn out quicker rather than spending a bit more on a
good quality item; we don’t ask this question enough I think, and it is:
If I buy this item, where is it going to live?

BONNIE: Yeah, and you know I think I have talked about this on the podcast before, but we
have had clients who you know have a bit of a shopping addiction, and they literally buy
things, and then they go on a shelf in the garage, still in the gift bag, still with the receipt in
there and they just never actually make it into the house to be used, like that is kind of not
really the point of going out and buying these things

LILY: It defeats the purpose, yeah there is the intention of buying it so you know if you are
buying these clothes you want it to be because you are going to wear them and of course the other question you can ask yourself if you are someone who struggles with the shopping
side of things is:

Can I wait a week and see if I still need it?

BONNIE: I love this question the most because I practice it on myself quite regularly
because when I do go to the shops I probably go about once a month, and it is usually like I
will go to Aldi, you know which is a big supermarket, and they do groceries, but they do other
like department store stuff randomly in the middle aisle, and I will always check it out and
see what is there, and there has been some many times where I am like oh that is really
handy, or they do a lot of organizing products, and I think oh that is really cool, but then I will
actually stop and say okay can I wait a week and see if I still need it, and quite often I go
home and like 3 days later it think what was the item that I saw that I thought oh year I want
that

LILY: I absolutely need it, yeah

BONNIE: It is interesting, but it is probably the best question you can ask yourself to stop
that shopping, so turn the tap off and stop accumulating too much.

LILY: Alright, after the break, we are going to talk about how to tackle these clothing piles
YOU’VE GOT MAIL:

LILY: Okey, Dokey time for a listener question, and this one comes to us from Emily in
Devon North Victoria. Okay, Emily’s question is, what is the best way to store gift wrapping
items, saved bags, paper boxes, etc. Straight to you for this one, Bon

BONNIE: Yes, gift wrapping can be really tricky, so we encourage people to create a gift
wrapping station, so this can look different depending on who you are and what your space
options are; for me at home, I have actually just got a big long under bed roller box, it is
actually an official gift wrapping box because it has got these 2 little knobs that stick out of
the side of the box and I can actually stick a roll of wrapping paper on there

LILY: Oh, that’s the dream, yeah

BONNIE: And snip it off, that is exactly the noise it makes, and I store everything in there, so
I have just got stuff kind of loose in there, but in piles, so all of my paper craft books are
together, because I use those for cards and things like that, and then all the rolls of paper,
you know a pile of cellophane, I have got spare ribbons and stuff, and I just keep them in a
large organza bag but then everything is together, and there is also a pair of scissors and
sticky tape and a pen in there so that I can do everything all at once, it is all there really easy
to access but another way that you can store things like your rolled up wrapping paper is you
can get these plastic bag holders, you know when you have your plastic bags under your
sign, and you can get these holders, they are kind of like a half moon shape, and they get
attached to the door and then they have got all these little holes in them so you can pull the
plastic bags through them. You might have had one when you were younger, or your parents
might have had one that was like a calico bag; I think our mum used to have a chicken.

LILY: Yes

BONNIE: And the plastic bags are wrapping in there, and you just pulled one out

LILY: You pulled one out of the chicken’s bottom

BONNIE: Yes, that is exactly right. So you can get these plastic half-moon things that store
your plastic bags in, and they are really great for wrapping paper because the wrapping
paper can stand upright in it, and you can just pick out the role you want to use and then put
it back but obviously, you have to affix it to a cupboard, and so it is good if you do it on the
inside of a tall cupboard that has actually got the depth to be able to close the door, and the
wrapping paper sits flush against the door, and then you can do some smaller lightweight
baskets that divide up, one for your gift bags, one for your cellophane and one for your
ribbons and your other kind of smaller gift wrapping type accessories.

LILY: And there you go; hopefully, that helps Emily, and if you have a listener question and
you want to send one in, head to our Facebook page Little Home Organised and send it in
as a text.

MUSIC:

BONNIE: So if clothing is an issue for you and you are thinking, yep, this is great. I know
why I buy things, I know what questions I can ask myself to stop buying things, but how do I
get rid of the excess clothes in my wardrobe right now? Well, this is the section for you. So
when it comes to tackling your clothes and doing your decluttering there has got to be some
non negotiable, now non negotiable for me are things that are damaged kind of beyond
repair and they cant be worn anymore so sometimes this might be holes, sometimes it might
be mould, sometimes it might be stains, you know whatever it is for you that makes you think
oh no I can’t wear that anymore, that then becomes a non negotiable and I think one of the
things that people tend to forget about is that when you do have items of clothing that you
can’t wear anymore they still have a purpose either to be a textile that is recycled or to be
used as a rag, so a few weeks ago we gave a bag of actually several bags of rags you know
old clothes, old linen to a local mechanic and we was like oh awesome thank you so much
so if you have got old clothes that you can no longer use or wear go and give them to your
local mechanic or sometimes the animal shelters will take them, I mean there is always a
way for us to then pass this item on to someone else either to be reused or to be recycled
and the end of the life cycle I supposed is the landfill because everything does have an
expiry date in terms of recycling and that is why it is important to turn the tap off in the first
instance only buy what we actually need.

LILY: The other way to look at that I think as well is like if something is sitting in your
wardrobe and it has a hole, and you are not actually wearing it because it needs to be
repaired, or I want to figure out how to fix that stain, it is what we call like the whole like
decision pending, it is just kind of sitting there, and if you haven’t made an intentional plan to
do something with it, it is not being addressed

BONNIE: That’s right

LILY: And it is perpetuating the cycle, so if you do have something that has a hole and it can
be fixed, great fix it, but you need to put a plan in place to make that fit.

BONNIE: So have a go box for things that need to be fixed, you know, create a bag, put a
sticky note on the top, and give yourself a deadline; okay, I need to get these items repaired within 2-4 weeks, or they are actually going to go somewhere else because the reality is it is
not that important to actually get them fixed.

LILY: Right, so talking about how to determine how much clothing we need, Bon. First things
first, I would think we should be putting things into categories right.

BONNIE: Absolutely and this is the biggest thing that people forget is that if you ever get
stuck the most important thing you can do is actually sort things into your categories so
when we talked about how I was moving house last year and my husband got really stuck in
the garage, that was all because he needed to actually sort things into categories okay and
once you actually go and you sort things into categories it makes it a whole lot easier
because you can see of these are all my work clothes, these are all my gym clothes, these
are my house clothes and these are my casual or ladies who lunch clothes and you might
have like a formal clothes section or something like that but once you have sorted it out into
your categories you can actually look at your work clothes and go wow I have got 40 items of
work clothing and I only work 3 days a week, do I really need 40 items for only 3 days a
week, and so you can do that whole mathematical equation of I only want to keep 2 weeks
worth or clothes for work to be able to interchange them and what not, so you might say
okay well that gives me you know 3 outfits each week so that is 6 outfits altogether, some of
them might be dresses if you wear dresses, some of them might be tops and bottoms and
work out okay that could be a total of like 12 work items and then instead of trying to go
through and go you know this one and go and this one can go, start from your favourites and
say okay well I know my magic number is 12 for my work clothes so I am going to pick my
12 favourite items that do mix and match and can give me you know lots of options, and on
that note I wanted to just remind people if clothing is an issue for you go back to our previous
episodes and look for the Courtney Carver one on the

LILY: Minimalist wardrobe with Courtney Carver

BONNIE: The minimalist one, yes because we talk a lot about having a minimalist wardrobe
there as well and her situation where she was in a corporate environment, and she basically
cut down to, you know 33 items and wore them for 3 months, and nobody noticed and that I
think is one of my biggest fears is that going to a capsular wardrobe or a minimalist
wardrobe that people are going to notice that I am wearing the same things over and over
and say something whereas that has happened.

LILY: No, it really is this fear that we have held up in our head, and it doesn’t really
necessarily reflect reality.

BONNIE: So we are all so worried about ourselves, but we think that everybody else is
actually worrying about us too, and everybody else is just worrying about themselves.

LILY: Worrying about themselves, exactly. So hopefully, that equation helps you figure out
how to tackle all the clothing, so we have kind of addressed stopping the excess coming in;
we’ve looked at some of the ways you can navigate having excess and how to determine
what to keep. Some other questions you can actually ask yourself, though, if you are trying
to determine you are holding that top-up in front of you, what are my going to do this top, so
one question to ask yourself, when did I last wear this? Like if I am to think of my wardrobe
right now and some tights that I am struggling to let go of, when I think of when I last wore
them, it was a few years because I am so determined to not get rid of them, and so I know it

was a few years ago. The next question is a duplicate of something I already own? I have
like over 10 pairs of these tights, so yes.

BONNIE: But they are all different

LILY: They are all different

BONNIE: They are all different pattern; they are an expression of you

LILY: They are an expression of me as well, you know

BONNIE: Art on my body

LILY: Does it fit properly? These tights do not fit me; they do not fit me and

BONNIE: Full disclaimer

LILY: Full disclosure here, and the thing that is so frustrating about these tights was when I
bought them, they were tight at the time, like I brought the wrong size, that they were quite
snug, and so it is kind of being an impossible mission to fit back into them, watch this space
though

BONNIE: Oh, you are really bringing yourself down with that one, aren’t you

LILY: I am determined, and then with this example, the final question to ask yourself is, do
you love it? And with these tights I do because what is important about this question is if you
don’t love it, you are probably not going to wear it, if you are putting on that top, putting on
those pants doesn’t make you feel good, why are we convincing ourselves that we are going
to reach for that next time, or that if it doesn’t feel good on my body right now why am I so
convinced that oh if I wear it with these shoes or if I try it again you know when I am 1 or 2
kilos different it is going to make me feel so much different?

BONNIE: It is that whole definition of insanity, doing the same thing repeatedly but expecting
a different result, and you know with the tights in particular that you refer to because I also
went through this tights phase many moons ago as soon as I got pregnant with my first child
these tights were out the window because I knew that there was no way I was going to fit
back into them but also another reason that I got rid of them is that I realized I don’t really
have the body shape for tights, I have a real pear shape so drawing attention to my legs, and
something that finishes quite tight on the ankle was actually not very flattering for me at all,
and that was something that I really had to come to grips with because I too

LILY: There was a mourning period

BONNIE: There was a mourning period because I really felt like these were an expression of
myself and my personality, and you know when I think back to my teenage years, and
especially all of the music festivals and stuff that we use to go to and I think of when my
husband and I first started dating, and we went to the black stump music festival in Sydney
with a friend, and I look back at some of the things that I wore, and I think man you must
really love me like I just wore some really really crazy

LILY: Weird outfits

BONNIE: Really crazy outfits

LILY: You know what I think, Bonnie I think you should wear those tights one day again

BONNIE: But I don’t have them anymore; I got rid of them.

LILY: Consider this permission to go on a spending spree

BONNIE: Maybe I will just borrow some of yours since you have so many

LILY: I do have so many. The other thing I wanted to quickly comment on about the whole
do you love it question? Is it when you are at the store trying the item on? If your immediate
response isn’t I love this, that is another warning sign; if you are like, oh yeah, it could work,
or I don’t really know, but I know I need this kind of top, it is going be a short-lived item, you
are not going to feel amazing in it, when you are at the shops you should love it from the
time you go to buy it all the way through to your wardrobe.

BONNIE: Yeah, and the other thing to think about when you are shopping as well that we
didn’t mention is how easy is it going to be to care for this item, so if you are a time-poor
mum and you hate ironing, don’t buy linen

LILY: Oh, I don’t; for that exact reason

BONNIE: Yeah, I am exactly the same, and I just can’t be bothered. I don’t have time to do it
and

LILY: I don’t want to add that to my plate

BONNIE: And I don’t want to do it, so I just stick to buying fabrics that I don’t need to do
extra delicate garment care on and dry cleaning and all that sort of stuff, so just be kind to
your future self, pick stuff that is easy to take care of.

LILY: Yeah, if your wash routine is suddenly going to be really different for this one item of
clothing, that is something to think about as well.

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: Okay, so we love talking about the hanger trick because it works, so let’s say you are
still thinking, oh I just don’t know what I actually do wear, I don’t think I have too much
excess, but I feel like I could keep everything in my wardrobe, something you can definitely
try is the hanger trick, we talked about this in one of our first episodes which were wardrobe
woes, but we are going to talk about it again because it really is a great strategy.

BONNIE: Yeah, so if you are getting stuck and you need some physical help because the
amount of times we will go to a client and say, oh when was the last time your wore this, oh I
wear it all the time, oh I wear that all the time, oh I wear that all the time, okay well let’s
actually do the hanger trick and see if you do actually wear if all the time, so what you do is
you take all your items that are on hangers, and you turn the hangers around backwards so
that they have to get hung from the back onto the hanger, when you wear that particular item
you then turn the hanger around to the correct way and rehang the item, then after a period
of 3 months or 6 months or whatever, at the end of the season you can actually look back on
your items across your wardrobe and see oh I actually didn’t wear those items, I thought that

I did, but I actually didn’t so it is a really visual way for you to take that emotion out of the
decision making, the proof is in the pudding.

LILY: There is literally no denying it at that point; it is so cool, it is so simple, I am visual, I
love it, give it a go. Highly recommend it

BONNIE: Yeah, because then you can at least make the decision of okay I didn’t actually
wear it even though I thought that I had; now let’s take a real hard look at myself and why I
am actually hanging onto this item because I didn’t wear it and so there is a reason for that
but why am I still wanting it here.

LILY: Yeah, be intentional with all things, so before we wrap up today, of course, we have to
talk about the capsule wardrobe; if you haven’t heard of it, we will talk about what it is and
why this could be beneficial in your home.

BONNIE: SO with your capsule wardrobe, this is sometimes referred to as a French capsule
wardrobe as well. When you walk around Paris in particular and even France, in general, I
just tend to find that the women there are so beautifully dressed and everything goes so
nicely together, and I think one of the reasons that that is the case is that they are often
using this capsule wardrobe and the idea with this is that you have say a shirt and I am
wearing like a white tank top today, and you might get that tank top, but in 3 different colours
that are quite neutral and then you might get similar neutral colours that are in a t-shirt and
then similar in a long sleeve, so you might go 3 tank tops, 3 t-shirts, 3 long sleeve and then
shorts wise you might go okay 3 shorts that match any of those tops and then you might go
3 pairs of jeans that match any of those tops or skirts or whatever and same thing with your
dresses and your cardigans, so everything matches

LILY: It can kind of be worked with each piece.

BONNIE: Yeah and it is almost like there are unlimited combinations and when you get to
things like your shoes and your accessories, you know your handbags, your belts, your

scarves, and your sunglasses, everything kind of matches so when you go on holidays, you
could be going for a 3-week trip, but you only need to take like maybe 15 items because they
all actually mix and match and it means that you are packing is so much lighter, and you
don’t have to do that whole well this is day 1 outfit, this is day 2 outfit, this is day 3 because
they don’t, nothing actually goes with each other, and I have got to make sure that I have
matched that stuff up before I go, it just makes it a lot easier
LILY: Yeah, and I think if you are someone who doesn’t use clothing as a form of like really
unique artistic expression where you want to have these extravagantly lavish and different
outfits every day you still want to like look good and feel really good in your skin then a
capsule wardrobe could be something great because it is like if you are busy and it is really,
and you want something that is really simple, it is cool because I know that all of these are
going to work and I can get up, get dressed really quickly, no I am going to feel good, look
good and get out the door.

BONNIE: Yeah, and on that note, in terms of, you know, having something that maybe is a
bit oomphy, there is a bit of a formula that you can apply when you are actually dressing
yourself, and that can be a light colour, a dark colour, a print and then a colour and if you
kind of stick to putting one of those 4 elements into your outfit that actually makes your outfit

pop quite a lot and something that is probably become a bit more of a no no these days
although when I did deportment school when I was in

LILY: Oh my goodness, can you imagine trying to do deportment now days

BONNIE: Oh yes, it was definitely very interesting in high school; it was all about, and even
in primary school it was always about your shoes, your belt, your handbag must match, but
these days the general rule of thumb is matchy matchy is out, so when you have shoes and
earrings that are the exact same colour, and you look at someones outfit your eyes will
actually bounce from their shoes to their earrings and back and forth whereas when
everything are slightly different colour so say you have got a white top, grey pants, a pop of
colour on your earrings and then maybe some like animal print loafers or shoes or whatever,
everything kind of blends in together and you can take in the whole outfit as one, whereas
when you have 2 colours that match perfectly, yeah your eyes do this bouncy bouncy thing,
so it is just really

LILY: It is almost like a cartoon versus real-life nature. You know

BONNIE: Yeah, it is just really interesting, but that is where the capsule wardrobe is so
beneficial, and you can use that pop of colour with a great necklace or a great scarf or a
great pair of shoes to help bring out, you know what might otherwise be more of a plain or
neutral type outfit.

LILY: Awesome, so Bonnie, what should our tidy task be for this week.

BONNIE: So this week’s tidy task is to do an assessment of your wardrobe, go and start
dividing into your categories, work out which categories are overflowing, if you are going to
the gym twice a week but you have got 21 days worth or gym clothes, stop and take an
assessment, do I actually need 21 days when I only go twice a week and start to do that cull,
implement the hanger trick if you are getting stuck on items and make sure that if you do
want to do a capsule wardrobe, you really stop and assess each of those different types of
outfit, you know the different types of your shirts and your tops and your different bottoms.
LILY: Right, well, that’s it for this week’s episode. Thank you so much for tuning in and
choosing to have us in your ears, and if this is your first time listening to the podcast,
welcome.

BONNIE: And remember PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION.

LILY: See you later

BONNIE: Bye

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