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Time Sucking Technology

Do you find yourself habitually picking up your phone when you are watching T.V? Do you struggle to stop scrolling on social media? Do you feel like you are losing minutes and hours in your day? You are not alone! This episode is all about the blessing and curse of time-sucking technology. Find out how to change your habits with technology so you can reclaim time for the things you love.

 

Transcript

BONNIE: Hello and welcome. This week’s episode we are going to be talking about time sucking technology.  What are the technologies that suck your time and what can you do about them.  Lily I am really excited about talking about this topic.

LILY: I personally know that technology is sucking a lot of my time.  I use it for work, I use it for social purposes and at the moment I feel like it is like a 5th limb, like I can’t get away from it.

BONNIE: You know we were talking in the car this morning as we were off to record another episode about how when we get so use to having our smart phone with us an we all of a sudden don’t have it with us, we feel like we are actually missing something and I know for me in the last few months I have really tried to be very conscious of where my smart phone is going with me and when I am watching TV I try not have it nearby because otherwise I will just end up doing the double device thing, where I am watching TV but I am you scrolling through Facebook or doing something else at the same time

LILY: Totally, totally.  I feel like a few years ago I could sit in front of a television and watch it and be fully content with it and wouldn’t need my phone.  I could have my phone nearby and I wouldn’t have that compulsion to pick it up and a few years of bad habits later I now have to be like on actively doing something on my phone and watching the TV show as well and when you do things like that, when you are multi tasking you don’t get the best of both worlds, you just get an average version of both

BONNIE: No, it is really like what have you got the TV on in the background for, because you might have sat down to watch the TV but your focus is on the device closest to you and I know there has been plenty of nights, because my husband is a shift working and on the nights that he is not here, he is at work I might actually sit down to watch TV but I have got the laptop out to do a little bit of work and I have got my phone here because somebody might be texting me or something like that.  So, I have got 3 devices on the go at once and that is just, a bit silly, like my brain is going brrrrr.

LILY: You know this whole theory that woman are multi taskers, like I am going break the news if you haven’t heard, it is not true, we are not, weren’t not wired differently, we just happen to try and juggle multiple things at a time and we are not exceptionally good at it either.  It is just that we get practiced at doing it, so this idea of women being multi taskers, yeah we are juggling a bunch of things but we are not excelling at the bunch of things that we juggling.  We can’t give whole attention to each of those things are the same time.  They are all getting part of our attention and you know with that in mind it starts to leave you feeling pretty chaotically.  You mention the TV thing and that is certainly being something I am super aware of when I am sitting down watching Netflix I have my phone open as well and I went through a phase of actually choosing intentionally foreign shows, foreign films so that I could only understand it with the subtitles on because it meant that I had to look at the TV and not look down at my phone, and it was actually really nice to just sit there and fully zone out and pay attention to one thing.

BONNIE: Yeah it is interesting isn’t it, when you were talking before about women and this idea that we are really good at multi tasking and things like that, I love that analogy that goes around about how women, like men and women are like computers and women have 10 or 20 tabs open at once and we constantly switch between each of the tabs where as men tend to maybe have like one tab open at a time and it is the whole um you know box theory where they go from I am in the work box to now I am at home, I am in the home box and now I am in the relaxation box of watching the TV or you know kicking back and having a drink or something like that and how much when I thought about that and thought about conversations you and I have had, how often I feel like we actually have conversations that are just constantly switching tabs, like we are going from one topic to another like that.  It is just

LILY: I have too many tabs open literally on my computer and in my brain at all times, and I guess that comes back down to the mental load as well does it, you know we talked about that in an earlier episode that idea that you are carrying so much responsibility in your head and that you know as soon as you walk pass a piece of stimulus and you add that into the mental load as well you know it is no wonder you are pinging around the place and then we try to unwind with technology and it is a gift but it is also something that takes away from our time.

BONNIE:  Oh it does

LILY: As well as making things more efficient.  So what would you say is the technology that sucks a lot of your time.

BONNIE:  The biggest time suck for me is probably TV and Facebook, so social media wise I am not huge on Instagram, every time I go to open it on my phone it is like, your account has been compromised and I think yeah look I can’t be bothered doing this whole password reset process so I just kind of mmmmm.

LILY: Run wild, post your photos.  Use my information

BONNIE: Whatever go for it.  Um but yeah Facebook is something that really does become a time suck for me and I have been pretty good with unfollowing a lot of stuff, so probably a year or 18 months ago I actually went through and unfollowed all, nearly all of my friends on Facebook,  you make the cut happy to know.

LILY: Yes

BONNIE: So I probably have maybe 20 maybe 30 people who I actually see their posts and stuff, everyone else I unfollowed because I just felt like I was seeing too many things from people who weren’t really

LILY: In your close network

BONNIE: Yeah who weren’t really that important

LILY: Savage

BONNIE: Well they are important to other people but they are not people that are in that inner circle and when you look at, I think it is done by who had this theory of like how many people, like our limit of how many people we can actually have close relationships.  You can have really close intimate relationships with 5 people.

LILY: Under his theory.

BONNIE: Under this theory and then you can have can have like a group of acquaintances that I think is maybe 50 people and then your wider network that you can handle that is a little bit further out, um like your acquaintances 150 is what you can capably manage being friends with.  So when you apply that and you might have a friendship list on Facebook of 500 or 1000 people, well no wonder you cant keep up with all that stuff and that’s why you know with the algorithms and things that Facebook kind of choices for you based upon what your picking and saying yes I like this, or yes I would love this, or whatever so that theory is actually in play with Facebook’s algorithm anyway.

LILY: Social media and Facebook in particular are great at connecting us with people but they are also great at becoming time consuming and the way the app is designed is it is designed to encourage further engagement with it.  One of the features of that is scrolling.  Scrolling is so easy and when you think of the action of the flicking of the finger.  Once you start doing it and looking down you will notice that far long after you have decided you need to stop you are still scrolling.

BONNIE:  I know it is weird isn’t it.  It is like you have started a snowball in motion and you just can’t stop it.  It is just..

LILY: But what if I just and you know we talk about this clutter as well.  What if I go to close my phone and just as I am about to scroll onto a really funny meme or a really engaging video or a really cool story and so it is that fear of missing out, it is that what if it just around the corner, you know some of the reasons we can’t let go of things in our life is what if end up using it or what if I miss out on a piece of information that is in that magazine and you know we may not ever end up reading it but that fear, like it is funny how even something simple as that can play into our behaviour and it includes how we do things on Facebook and on that note you know we are talking about things sucking our time and one of the things we actually did recently in our Facebook community group was I did a tutorial and you can actually go into that group, you can come join and you can see that tutorial today on how to declutter your Facebook feed,  because we all acknowledge that Facebook takes up a lot of our time and we do a lot of mindless scrolling and part of the problem of that is that there is so much irrelevant content that we are getting past to try and find the good stuff.  Now in this video as I was showing people, I showed you how to declutter what pages you like, how to declutter your friend’s list and how to declutter from groups and I also explained the difference between what you like and you follow.  Now one of the things that is interesting is when I was doing this I noticed that I had over 2000 pages that I had liked

BONNIE: Wow that is a lot

LILY: Right that is a lot and when you think about 2000 pages and a lot of those pages are fighting for your attention on Facebook and how they design their content and maybe they do advertised content and the way the algorithms work depending on what settings you have got set up you can make the algorithm work in your favour or against your favour and so in this little tutorial I kind of explain how to go into that, so I am not going to go into detail of that today.  So if you are interested please come over and join the Little Home Organised Community on Facebook request membership, we will let you in and you will able to be see that video and declutter your list, but one of the key features of that is the difference between liking and following and like you say, you actually having say you have got 500 friends, you can keep your 500 friends but you can unfollow

BONNIE: Mmmm

LILY: 490 and then only have the content from 10 people coming up in your feed and that is a cool way to bring back sometime for yourself that’s for sure.

BONNIE: Another feature I really like about Facebook along that same line is that unfollow or snooze for 30 days.  So if someone is being particularly pesty with all of their posts and they are all a bit spammy for some reason because a lot of people who are in business post business stuff on their personal page to try and promote what they are doing, which is cool because you still learn things about your friends that you didn’t even know and you can snooze that for 30 days if for some reason they are going through a phase where they are posting a bit too much, or if you have got a friend who is spamming you with baby photos or pregnancy photos

LILY: But they are soo cute

BONNIE: I know they are so cute

LILY: Yeah but that is like another cool feature right

BONNIE: Mmm I allows you to just, oh I have just had enough for now but reassess later.

LILY: So Facebook is one thing that takes a lot of your time and you mentioned TV as well, when I think personally I think Netflix, it depends, I go through phases where I hardly watch anything and then I go through phases where at night time, again multi tasking, I will have like a show on the background and I am able to binge watch some amazing seasons while I am working on my laptop

BONNIE: But are you really watching it, it you are doing work at the same time

LILY: That’s it and it is funny like I can think about a series I was watching recently which I just thought was like the best show, so funny, so well done and what I really enjoyed about the show was watching the characters interact and their facial expressions and there mannerisms, like it was that intricate and when I first started watching it I noticed I gave it complete attention but then as I got use to watching the show I started mucking around on my phone, mucking around on my computer and working while watching it and then I would look up and I almost felt like I was longing to watch the show but I could not rip myself away from the technology and that is when you know you have got a bit of a problem.

BONNIE: Addiction

LILY: Yeah, truly it is. Like it is a time suck and when I think about all the things that are sucking my time, Netflix yes, it does why Netflix those streaming services are amazing and the way that they roll over onto the next episode, it is designed to keep you watching, keep you using, so Facebook is another one, Instagram, social media, because I do it for work, you know my social media work, that keeps me engaged with those platforms as well and I spend a lot of time in design programs, like Canva making beautiful graphics and things like that and before you know it, you have gone like I can spend hours and hours mucking around with things, editing websites that kind of stuff.

BONNIE: You know I think a lot of it comes down to your habits as well, like we were talking today as well about my Mister 2 who has got a real thumb sucking problem and we are trying to address that the moment but he will literally hand you a car or a water bottle and say here Mum, and then his thumb goes straight in his mouth because it is a habit, like it is such a bad habit for him and I think sometimes we can have that habit with our phones where our brain gets a bit board and we go, or lets just check the phone, lets see if there is anything I have missed

LILY:  There is a moment in time here, I need to be filling it with something

BONNIE: Yeah it is like we are not comfortable to sit with the space, the boredom that presents and I think we need to get comfortable with that.

LILY: So we had a look on our phones earlier at what, how much time we spent on our screens, this is just on our phones, this isn’t on our laptops, this isn’t on other technology or devices and I wasn’t surprised how much time I had on there.  You actually were on there a bit more than I thought.  You had 3 hours and I spend on average per day 5 hours on my phone

BONNIE: Which interestingly enough is about the same as what that statistic we looked at says for average adults is

LILY: about 5 hours a day engaging with technology and that’s you know when you think about it, it is like in some cases you might be like oh wow that’s not much and in other cases you are like what that is crazy and I think everyone’s technology use is a little bit different but it definitely does penetrate many areas of our life that’s for sure.  Well before we talk about solutions to this problem I think we should head on over to our clutter confession segment and listen to our latest clutter confession.

CLUTTER CONFESSIONS

Anonymous caller:  Hi my clutter confession would have to be my stuffed toys from my childhood, even though I am 33 years old I have still got the majority of my stuffed animals and until recently they were still on shelves in my room, now they are in storage but um it is hard to get rid of them because they were your friends for so long, so yeah that’s my clutter confession.

BONNIE:  So full disclosure I am also 33 and I have one soft toy in particular that was given to me as a toddler which I actually nicknamed Brownie and there were have been even in recent years plenty of times where my husband might be away for a period or I am feeling lonely

LILY: Brownie comes in the bed

BONNIE: Brownie comes in the bed

LILY: I have a Brownie as well and I my brownie is my teddy bear from like I guess my first big bear as a kid.  I had a huge bag of soft toys that I only decluttered in the last 5 or so years and I remember you were a part of that, you were kind of like, Lily this is excessive

BONNIE: Are you really going to travel all over the world with all of these soft toys

LILY: And I was like no they are going to live in storage, but I look at the bag now and the ones that we ended up keeping were the ones that really were the most special to me, like I couldn’t even tell you which ones I did get rid of but one of them that is in there is Brownie.

BONNIE: Yeah isn’t that funny that we have both got a bear called Brownie.

LILY: Yeah wasn’t there one called Pinky or Bluey

BONNIE:  Yeah yeah, you had a bluey and I had a Pinky

LILY: Oh did we

BONNIE: And didn’t bluey have

LILY: that’s so creative

BONNIE: I know we were like 2 come on, but I am sure your Bluey had like a zip in the back where you could, a pocket

LILY: Yes and you could reverse them and the inside was all shinny

BONNIE: Yeah you could make it into like a pillow or something like that,  it wasn’t like a reversible bear but  you could like fold him inside himself to be a pillow and zip him up, yeah, crazy hey

LILY: They just don’t make toys the same

BONNIE: No they don’t and I remember my Pinky who was you know a small bear had a dolls dress on that had you know the puffed paint writing that you put

LILY: Yes

BONNIE: Expo 88

LILY: That dress was amazing

BONNIE: So good

LILY: So technology, its great, it helps us be efficient, keep on top of stuff but is it a time suck all right and we are all about reclaiming time for the things we actually love to do.  So one of the things that I think is a great idea is potentially if you can introduce a technology free day into your week.

BONNIE: I think that is a really great idea and a few months ago I recognised that I was falling into a really bad habit of every night once the kids were in bed because life with 3 kids especially during restrictions and lock down um can be really tough and they can be stressful and they can overwhelm you and you can get to end of the day feeling like you have been run over by several large vehicles, so we found that there were times where we would get to every night after the kids were finally asleep and in bed um that we would just get into this habit of okay lets put the TV on because it is mindless, we don’t have to do much, we can just slowly relax and wind down but I found that when I actually was conscious about when I watched TV that my time during the week if I went and said okay I am going to have technology free time during the week at night, I actually found I got the end of the week and felt better about myself than if I had just mindlessly watch TV every night.

LILY: Now I know what you mean, I find it to be a bit of catch 22, like I have this longing to sit down and unwind behind the telly, not behind the telly in front of the telly. Wouldn’t be seeing much if I was behind it, um

BONNIE:  Not that much room either

LILY: No, no.  So, like I am driven to relax in that way but when I do sit down and relax in that way I don’t necessarily then feel relaxed.

BONNIE: It is funny how society has evolved so much where our main idea for how we relax at home is sitting on the couch and flicking the TV on and what I noticed a few years ago is there were a couple of houses that I went to where people has specifically designed their lounge rooms around a fire place or around not having a TV at all and they actually seemed like they were much happier for not having it.

LILY: Well I think of being happier without TVs and technology I just think about summer camp, so one of the things I am so grateful for is that I grew up in a time where technology was up and coming

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: It wasn’t saturated and it wasn’t everywhere and so like a lot of my childhood was free of it and I do feel for the children today because it permeates everything that they do and everywhere that they go.  When we worked at Camp in the States our camp was technology free.

BONNIE: Oh that’s cool

LILY: And kids would come, young children who had mobiles and had you know are on snap chat and they are on different applications where they have to be involved to stay connected with their friends at school so that they don’t miss out socially it has become really integral and they would come to camp and they would go through like a phase of like detoxing from the technology where they would really miss it and then once they got through that after a day or two, my goodness they all loved it.  They all would say I love not having my phone. I love not worrying about technology, not being on my iPad, not having a television, because when you remove all this stuff, you do reclaim time for the things you love and the things you love is playing outside, learning new skills, building connections with other people.

BONNIE:  It is all about that relationship as well isn’t it and I think sometimes we let our devices get in the way of us doing that and we are scarred to remove those devices because then we feel vulnerable and exposed and I think back to grade 10, when I was in school and we had a one month camp out at Ballon. It is about 4-5 hours west of Brisbane and like your summer camps it was technology free and you could tell the kids, like I was in grade 10 so I didn’t have a phone yet, TV was not like a huge thing in our household but you could tell the kids who were really suffering from nothing having that stuff around and not having like all the fast food joints and stuff around but after a couple of days you could see how everyone started to relax and interact with each other and it is great in that different environment because you start to meet and become friends with people that you probably wouldn’t have otherwise at school and they had a parents day 2 weeks in where the parents came and had a look around for the day and they were allowed to bring whatever food they wanted and I remember this one guy his parents brought him a bucket of fried chicken. Like it was a big bucket and he ate the whole thing by himself and man was he so sick or what like

LILY: But when you like, technology its almost like it’s a safety as well.  I think you mention earlier where you know there is that moment in time and you are like I am not doing something so you pick out your phone, what could I be missing, what is happening in the world and when you take that away like there is a bit of vulnerability there but then that also leaves room for so much opportunity.  Like if I sit here and I think, one of the things I have noticed so much since having a baby especially is that my time has been changed in the sense of when I can do things, when I want to do things, when he is asleep I have got opportunities to get  things done and when he is awake my time is spent with him, right so I feel like my time is more precious than ever

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: And there are things that I miss and I want to do and I can make time for them but interestingly enough I don’t, I fill them mindlessly with other things, like I might be scrolling through Facebook or what have you

BONNIE: Is it because it is easier do you think?  Because it is like right there in front of you already holding the phone or it is already right next to you, is it just the easy factor.

LILY: I think it is, I think it is that habitual thing too right, so that habit of I will just check it

BONNIE: And then all of a sudden

LILY: Then I am in the scrolling game

BONNIE: It is 20 minutes later and you think oh goodness I didn’t mean to waste all that time.

LILY: Absolutely, and so we are talking about the idea of having a tech free day, so like if you can have a day where you come home and instead of having the TV on at night you and your housemate or your husband or whoever you live with decide to do something different where you engage in community together or you still do something independent but it isn’t based in technology, so say you do something like you keep saying you really want to get in to Yoga, have a crack at Yoga.  You have been meaning to keep doing some woodwork in your shop and build that thing you wanted to build or repair that thing you want to repair, well instead of you know mindlessly scrolling go out and do that

BONNIE: Work on a project

LILY: Work on a project.  You keep saying that you really need to unwind and that you are stressed out and you would love to have a bath, go have a bath, prioritise that bath or why not pull out a card game or a board game with your partner.  It is almost like we save those things for special occasions to.

BONNIE: It is funny actually you just mentioned that and I thought every time we go on holidays or camping or something like that, cause we like to go camping on Fraser Island every year, beautiful place, and where we camp the internet sucks, which is great because it means that we have to be really present with our kids and all that sort of stuff and so when we go camping with other couples we will every night you know play a board game or a card game or something like that and the memories that I have of not just Fraser but all these like youth group trips that we use to do and anytime we went away with people, the things that stand out the most is the board games and the card games and that time spend in community doing together

LILY: In community, like when you think back to like some of the strongest memories that you have are those memories of technology

BONNIE: No

LILY: Or are you know, and maybe some of them, like there was stand out moments, maybe those standout moments because they were shared with other people but often the things that we look back on and feel really fondly about are shared moments with others

BONNIE: Another thing that I think we need to mention is that the Australian Government or the Department of Health actually recommends that kids under 2 have not screen time at all and that kids 2-5 have less than an hour a day, so the best way that we can as parents actually monitor and maintain that is also role modelling, so you as a parent what is that you do, do you when you get to the dinner table, do you make sure that all technology is away.  Or are you letting work calls or notifications interrupt your dinner time like that is the thing that frustrates me the most when having a conversation with someone if there social media notifications keep popping up and pinging and they are checking them.

LILY: Oh it annoys me so badly and I am such a hypocrite with it. Like I am so bad with it and I fully acknowledge that.  Like I am finding it is creeping into more and more areas of my life and I think that is why I felt really passionate about us doing this episode is it is getting to a point where I am like, it is almost like out of control.  Like I don’t want it to be dominating my life the way it is.

BONNIE: Does that mean I can call you out on it when you do it.

LILY: Um sure

BONNIE: Should we have like a special word that I can say when

LILY: Banana

BONNIE: Banana and then my kids will be like Yes please

LILY: Oh sooo good. Alright well I think another thing that you could do if you can’t commit to the tech free day is to consider having tech free time and one of the ways that you can do this, I am not sure how it is done on an Android phone but on the iPhone is there is a setting called do not disturb, what’s great about this, is the setting can be put on so automatically when you are driving, no calls or text messages come through to you unless they are on like your important list

BONNIE: Yes I have this turned on and I have had it I don’t know 6-12 months and honestly it is so good because now

LILY: It is

BONNIE: Now in I don’t know if it is just Queensland the fine or if it is Australia

LILY: I know Queensland’s fine is pretty high

BONNIE: Yes so we have a fine here that just got introduced a few months ago that if you use your phone in the car it is a $1000 fine and so I know that when I did not have that do not disturb function on there was still that temptation when you would hear a text message come through that temptation to look at it, because I will just check and see if it is important,  you know what if you don’t know about it is not that important.

LILY: It can wait until you finish driving, and do not disturb is also good for night time so like you can have it so that if you have a phone in your room it will go on at night with your alarm and it means that nothing is going to wake you up unless it is an emergency of someone calling through multiple times, but what you can do with your phone, if you go into your settings on your iPhone set up do not disturb and basically you set it up so that its scheduled downtime away from technology.  You might put in that from every day from 5-8 I don’t want to be on technology and you set that up in your phone and it is automatically prompting you that when you pick it up out of habit it is going to go hey now you have scheduled this time.

BONNIE: You have reached your limit. Do you know with the Android they actually have a couple of different functions so one I have seen is that every time you pick up your phone a little tree appears on your background of your phone and by the end of the day you have got this whole forest of trees telling you basically how much time you have spent picking up your phone and touching it, another one that I have seen is like a bubble, so every time you open your phone it is a bubble and depending on how long you have spent on the phone depends on what the size of the bubble is.

LILY: Right

BONNIE: So it is really visual

LILY: Really visual

BONNIE: Yeah really good visual reminder for how long you have actually spent on your phone

LILY: Another thing you can do to organise your time better, if you find you are someone who uses your phone not necessarily for social media but for lots of other apps and games and you feel like they are taking a lot of your time and you want to put in better boundaries, is you can actually set that up in your iPhone as well

BONNIE: So you mean your notifications?

LILY: NO but yes definitely your notifications as well because that is another thing that your apps do draw you back into it.  Oh my gosh every time you download a new app, rather than make it something that becomes a really big ongoing problem, every time you download a new app adjust the notifications settings at the time

BONNIE: Set the rules up from scratch

LILY: Yes set it up from the start because otherwise it becomes a bigger job and then that they you can make sure you are not snowballing the effect, but no what I am talking about is you can set app limits so that basically it says I am only allowed to use this design app for 1 hour a day.

BONNIE:  Umm that’s cool, I don’t think I have actually implemented that.  I might look into that

LILY:  Yeah there is lots of stuff on your phone that can actually help you detach from it and you can start actually reclaiming time for the things you do want to be doing.

BONNIE: Umm connecting with people

LILY: Just connecting and maybe it is not connecting, maybe you really like to do things on your own and that’s fine too but if you are stuck in this habit and you feel like technology is sucking away the time and you are looking back at your week and thinking what did I even do, then maybe it is worth trialling some of these things and reducing your screen time down for sure.  The other thing I would suggest as well and this is definitely something that I have done in the past that has helped me out, unfortunately the way my work emails work I haven’t got this set up at the moment, if you can remove your work emails from your phone

BONNIE: Especially if you work in a government department where you are getting copied in on every memo or memo

LILY: Memo Makes me want to say Memo.  You don’t need those little memo’s popping up and you know if it’s a work thing, it can wait until tomorrow. If you get into the habit and this is like a really important thing, if you get into the habit of replying to your work emails at weird hours of the night or replying to them immediately in the time that should be spent on you, your personal time, not only will people start to just expect it, just out of habit that you will reply to emails in your own hours, they will also potentially start to get frustrated and offended

BONNIE: When you don’t

LILY: When you don’t because you have set up that precedent, so that is another reason to remove work emails from your phone, keep them on your laptop, keep them on your computer instead.

BONNIE: It is like you need to respect your boundaries so that other people respect your boundaries.

LILY: Yes, this topic is so challenging for me, because I really struggle with my boundaries with technology and I find myself, I feel like at the moment I work 24/7 and for someone who is like a stay at home mum with a baby that seems crazy.

BONNIE: It does especially when you find out the stats about how many babies are actually not able to recognise their mum’s face because during breast feeding their mum’s are too busy looking at the phone all the time so that is a really important one to remember and I think that is going to lead us onto this weeks tidy task which is we would like you to go and have a look in your phone, at your settings, have a look and see how much time you are actually spending on your phone on average every day and you might be surprised by it.  Work out what your ideal is, how much time do you actually want to be spending on it and then put some steps into place from what we have talked about today that are going to help you get there.  So, it might be the case of putting “do not disturb” on.  It might be putting the case of an app limit on so that when you have used that app for more than a particular amount of time

LILY: You’re done

BONNIE: It locks you out.  It might be about getting rid of all of your notifications so that when you are having a deep and meaningful conversation with your loved one um social media is not beeping at you because someone liked your photo.

LILY: Yeah and another thing that I would say that you could potentially do as your tidy task this week is if you are someone who keeps your phone next to you in your bedroom and it is the last thing you look at before you go to sleep at night, not only is that not great for helping us get to sleep and I am guilty of this, I do it every night.

BONNIE: So guilty

LILY: Maybe a baby step you can take for your tidy task this week is too make sure that one night this week before you go to bed you do not touch your phone. You set your alarm, do what you need and then that’s it.  You leave it and you chat with your spouse or your cat, or by yourself, whoever is in your bedroom

BONNIE: Wilson

LILY: If it is just one of you that’s fine, just try it for one night.

BONNIE: Get a mirror

LILY: Try it for one night and then potentially the following week you can try it for 2 nights and then eventually you can start to build better habits.

BONNIE: And it is all about building those better habits in small baby steps.

LILY: Well that’s it for this weeks episode, a little bit tech heavy but we hope you are feeling empowered to get out there and start making some changes in your life to reclaim time for the things you love.  Don’t forget you can join Little home organised community group and in there, there is a video on how to declutter your Facebook feed.  So if you want the time that you do spend on  Facebook to be meaningful and to see the stuff that you actually care about head on over to the group, join and watch that video.  But that’s it for this week’s episode.  Thank you so much for having us in your ears.

BONNIE: And remember progress not perfection

LILY: See ya

BONNIE: Bye

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