BONNIE: Hello and welcome. I am Bonnie,
LILY: and I am Lily, and this is Little Home Organised the podcast dedicated to helping you declutter, get organised and reclaim time for the things you love.
BONNIE: Hello and welcome, this week we are talking about toy jail. Rather than a place where toys go when they are naughty, toy jail is just one of several strategies you can use to reduce the toy clutter in your home and teach your children that all-important life skill, responsibility.
LILY: A big word but a powerful one and if you are someone who is in a position at the moment where you really want to get on top of your clutter, specifically in the toy room, then the essentials guide, our online course may just be the answer you have been searching for, it is detailed for each room of the house including the toy room so you know exactly what products to use and what strategies are going to help you keep that space looking clutter free. So if you are interested Bonnie where should they go?
BONNIE: So head over to littlehomeorganised.com.au/courses and you will be able to find the Essentials Guide there and the greatest thing is it is designed for the time poor parent in mind and you have lifetime access.
LILY: Toys, toys, toys my goodness I didn’t know how much I would relate to the episode we are about to do until I had a baby of my own and it is really I think it is really true that kids have so many toys right now and I had people, we were really blessed with a lot of hand me downs for you and you know I love a trip to the op shop
BONNIE: Sorry about that
LILY: I love a trip to the op shop but one of the things that I noticed is that when it came to my son’s first birthday a month or so ago, people would ask me what do you want for him, what does he need
BONNIE: Oh that’s good
LILY: And, which was awesome, love friends like that who don’t want to just um buy fillers I suppose. I couldn’t think of anything
BONNIE: This is the thing
LILY: I was like, he has so many hand me down clothes, he has some many hand me down toys, what does he even need, and I was like this kid doesn’t need anything
BONNIE: Yeah and that’s the thing with first birthday parties
LILY: He’s one
BONNIE: It is not, you are not necessarily having a party because you want them to get more toys to be able to play with, their happy with an empty tissue box really, like they are just, it is the easiest age to please I find but you want to have a celebration to celebrate the fact that you got through the first year of parenting
LILY: Oh is that what it is
BONNIE: Oh my goodness
LILY: I probably wouldn’t have planned it a children’s park then, I would have had a spa
BONNIE: Yeah or gone to the pub and had some drinks so that you could actually relax and be kid free but yeah it is a celebration of getting through the first year but you are right, your one year old doesn’t actually need anything usually, and so sometimes you do end up getting all these gifts of toys and like some of them are great and some of them you can grow into and you can use them for future kids and all of that sort of thing, but the reality is we have all got too many toys.
LILY: We do, big kids and little kids, us big kids we have lots of extra stuff that we don’t necessarily use but
BONNIE: That are more expensive
LILY: Yeah they are more expensive toys and I just totally agree that when I see children and, in their homes with the amount of toys that they have I just feel like we are giving so many that it is becoming overwhelming and I am in a few Facebook groups for everything because there is a Facebook group for everything just like ours, decluttering and organising, get amongst it, but you know I am in a few and some of them are open ended toy groups that I am in because I was just curious about people who like to use wooden toys that are suppose to inspire imaginative play but a lot of the mums in those groups talk about how if you have too many toys out it is just overwhelming for your kids and they get really board.
BONNIE: Yeah they really do, it is like too much choice is actually too much
LILY: It is visual stimulation
BONNIE: It is too much for kids and so that is why as parents when your kids say to you, oh I am board get rid of their toys, get rid of as many toys as you can because their actually too overstimulated so it means
LILY: English teacher in you coming out
BONNIE: That means that they can’t actually think creatively because they are visually, there is too much going on and they can’t actually stop and sift through and make decisions, so that is why things like toy rotations are so good because it helps actually remove some of that visual overwhelm.
LILY: And if you are someone who when you think of toys in your house right now if you have like a specified playroom or toy area or maybe it is your child’s bedroom when you open that door and you have left them to their own devices for half an hour does it suddenly look like a bomb has gone off, is there absolute chaos everywhere, potentially the number of toys isn’t even necessarily the issue for you and potentially it is more of a conversation around helping our children learn their responsibilities and to pick up after themselves as they go and so basically today’s episode is going to be covering all of that, talking about some of the things that we have learnt both professionally and personally that are helping us keep on top of our children’s toys.
BONNIE: And I love this idea of talking about the responsibility side of things because someone said to me recently oh it just about naughty toys going to jail and the house being cleaner, and I said actually no, the whole purpose of this is to teach your kids how to be responsible because when our kids don’t have that motivation to be responsible they loose their school hat really easily, they loose their water bottle really easily, they don’t take care of things, they think that things are replaceable, like I have had the kids say to us at times when a toy has broken, oh we can just go an buy another one, actually no I am sorry that is not how life works, if you crash your car and you don’t have insurance on it, you can’t just go and buy another one, if you have haven’t taken care of your sunglasses and someone has stepped on them and scratched them, yeah maybe you can afford to go and replace them but we can’t necessarily do that with everything, so it is really important to teach our kids that element of looking behind us, packing up and that responsibility of not leaving things behind.
LILY: So there was an interesting article that I read the other day and it was about this Professor whose name was oh Professor I think it was Alvin Rosengreen and Thorn and something, anyhoo
BONNIE: what a cool name
LILY: And I will find it and link in the show notes. He was reflecting upon a conversation he had with a counsellor, a school counsellor they went into a classroom and they sat down with children and this counsellor said oh blah blah blah blah we are going to practice using our imaginations today or what have you, and all these little students were like what is imagination? What does that mean? And she was like Oh well imagination to me when I was young would mean I would dress up as wonder woman and I would put on a cape and boots and I pretend I could fly and I would race around and I would play pretend and they were all like we don’t understand it, we don’t get it, we haven’t done that and she was shocked, and she was mortified that these children had like lost the ability to imagine and as I was reading through this article by this Professor it was just interesting some of the observations he had noted about how we have changed how we have toys around children
BONNIE: Was it a she or a he because you have said both?
LILY: Or she was the counsellor, and he was the Professor
BONNIE: Oh right, oh okay
LILY: Yeah sorry
BONNIE: We are on the same page now
LILY: And one of the things that he observed is that children have too many toys, the quantity of toys and if you were to open your child’s bedroom right now and look in there could you even count in 5 minutes how many toys they have and I think for many families absolutely not, there are so many toys in our kids bedrooms
BONNIE: And the reality is especially once your kids are at school, there is not actually all that much time for them to be playing with indoor toys which tends to be the big clutter problem for us right, if our kids are at school, it is 5 days a week, maybe on weekends we are actually going out to parks, to birthday parties, to sporting events, or we are playing outdoors if it is a nice summer’s day, maybe we are playing in a pool or we are getting wet, we are riding scooters and skateboards and playing with balls and things like that, how much time do your kids actually spend indoors playing quietly with those toys. Once they get to school it really reduces and so it is really interesting to go to these homes and see these huge big playrooms that the kids are probably only in there an hour, 2 maybe 3 a week
LILY: Not much at all and then when you think about the amount of real estate that is being taken up,
BONNIE: Oh yeah and think about if you didn’t need that room at all and you could just have like a small shelf of toys in their bedroom, you could buy a smaller house, you could reduce your mortgage, you could go on more family holidays and more outings and vacations
LILY: The options are endless
BONNIE: because you have reduced just the toys, this is where decluttering can take us, it is amazing, it is like opening up all these opportunities and possibilities.
LILY: When we talk about sentimental clutter and how if we keep everything, then if we have everything then nothing is special, it think you can relate that to a lot of other things and it is like if my child has 100 toys, none of them are really special but if my child has a handful of toys then they maybe a lot more special to that child.
BONNIE: I think of this in particular, so in Australia one of our supermarket chains does these ooshies, and the kids loved collecting them and you can get glow in the dark ones, ones that change with temperature, so they stick them in the fridge and they change and things like that, so we have got 2 collections worth of ooshies at home and I stopped letting the kids use them because all they would do is like throw them at each other
LILY: Just a uni tasker toy
BONNIE: And they would just end up everywhere but the thing was when we had a smaller amount so say we only had like maybe 8-10 my older two really loved them because what they would do when our nieces would come over for family dinner is they would play hide and seek with them, and they would go and hide them around the house and then the other 2 would have to go and find them, but once the collection go so big, they kind of stopped caring about them anymore and it is really funny because the other day I was washing my daughters school uniform and I found a couple of things in her pocket and she was like I am really sorry mum, I brought them home from Nan’s house, because we have got a bit of don’t bring toys from Nans house because they would get lost and I don’t have to worry about them going back and vice versa and I was like oh its fine don’t worry about it, um but one of them was a ooshie, and it was the same ooshie that we have got in our collection of ooshies but because it was on its own
LILY: It was extra special
BONNIE: It was extra special and I thought yeah that is really interesting isn’t it, the more you have got the less special the individual seems to be.
LILY: So, if there is one thing you can do for your toy situation right now it would be to look at the quantity
BONNIE: Yes 100%
LILY: And that’s what I think is the big message with everything is declutter, declutter, declutter but really look at the quantity of toys that your children have and think about how much they are actually interacting with those toys and are they so over stimulated by the quantity that is time to consider doing a toy rotation. My example for this would be that with my son at the moment, I don’t know if it is his age, I am a first time mum and I am just getting to know this age he is one and a bit and he just wants to wonder around and touch and pull and explore on things but he wants to do it with everything that is not a toy, so you know it is pretty classic, he keeps pulling tissues out of the tissue box which is fine because like I wrapped him like a tissue box and gave it to him and he was like, I played with this a bit I am now uninterested but then of course when I have like got my back turned in the kitchen because I have
BONNIE: He’s like
LILY: Yeah he is pulling out tissues, it is like I have got have like a rotating head on my neck because you know every 10 seconds I am turning around or popping my head around the corner being like hey come back over here please, please stay alive, um but one of the things I am noticing is that I think he is getting maybe I don’t know if it is overwhelmed by the amount of stuff in the draws, because they all concealed in our trofast ikea system that we have got set up, you can see a picture of it on our social media, so I don’t know if he is getting overwhelmed or and I need to be investigating in the toy rotation idea already with him,
BONNIE: Mmm I think it is definitely worthwhile because when they have got only one thing to play with they actually can be more creative and imaginative with it, case in point, yesterday I took my 2 year old up the coast because we are moving there in a few months and I was looking at day care centres and looking at Op shops and stuff in the area making new connections and things for work and he said oh can I take a car in the car and I said yeah sure, so he took this little matchbox car in the car and that kept him amused the drive up, when we would go around shops or in the day care centres he would sometimes take it into, we went to the beach for a quick swim because hey why not, he took that down to the beach and was playing with that on the beach, you know on the car ride home it was just one toy and that is all he had all day and he was really kept amused by it, like it just did the trick all day. Whereas if you take a whole bag of toys on a road trip which I have done before with all of my kids they just end up all over the floor, they are not interested with them, it is like oh what’s next, oh what’s next.
LILY: So your kids came over to my house for my birthday dinner a couple of days ago and I was really excited for them to see our toys because they haven’t been to our house, they haven’t played with our toys and there was all these toys that I wanted them to play and interact with and they agreed, they wanted to play and interact with every toy but I watched them and it was like one this sense of what am I about to open and see and oh what what
BONNIE: New and exciting
LILY: cool thing and what is new and but then there was also this competitive drive to like to get in there and spot it before the sibling so they could play with it first and so it was like quick I have got to play with that, quick what’s new, what’s exciting and it is just funny that like the way that kids do that. So if you have got a lot of stuff of course declutter it but if you are trying to keep things interesting for your kids consider a toy rotation, so the great thing you can do is just take a bunch of the toys out, be it 50% some people do like 2/3’s they take most of the toys away, they put them out of sight and then they pick a time frame for which they want to rotate the toys out to keep it interesting, maybe you do it every week, maybe you do it every 2 weeks
BONNIE: Maybe it is once a month, whatever it is you don’t have to necessarily to all of your toys but you might have sets of things, so say you have got a little people’s set and then you have got a Duplo set and then you have got a mega block set, if you think oh I can’t actually let these go and the kids still love them, rotate those sets every week or a couple of weeks because then the kids don’t see them for a little while and when they come back out it is kind of like they are new again and you can tell a bit more easily then whether they are toys that you want to keep long term, because I haven’t seen them for a few weeks and they come out and they loose interest really quickly you know that they have moved on passed that toy and that was the interesting thing about going to your house the other night with the kids, a lot of those toys that are at your house now use to be a our house and so they suddenly
LILY: And they are suddenly more exciting again
BONNIE: Yeah, they were suddenly more exciting they were like oh look at this, and I am watching the 2-year-old play with this ball whacker thing that the eldest one got given when we were born and thinking this is so cool and I am thinking yeah that was at our house like 6-8 months ago and you did not play with it at all
LILY: You ignored it all
BONNIE: Yeah so it is just funny a toy rotation is a great way to keep it fresh.
LILY: So Bon can talk about 5 minute toys.
BONNIE: Oh my goodness, 5 minute toys are the bane of my life.
LILY: Why don’t we have a clutter confession and then come back
BONNIE: Yes lets come back to that one.
WACKY CONFESSIONS ANONYMOUS CALLER 1: I have a clutter confession, I have been keeping in a drawstring bag 30xm x 30cm a collection of electronic equipment, in the bag are old phones, old cameras, old smart watches and a stack of charging cable, I am keep a small collection of things just in case I may need them, truth is I never will and I need to sort though what I should actually keep and what needs to be passed on or thrown away. I will do it one day.
BONNIE: I love how when people ring and give us their clutter confession that by the end of it they are like I know I should get rid of it,
LILY: I know, we all know don’t we.
BONNIE: Yeah maybe that’s what makes it a clutter confession is something that we know that we should be getting rid of but we have just held onto for a while.
LILY: there are so many pending jobs in life, just sitting in the background just pending, waiting to be done,
BONNIE: Electronics are one of those really tricky ones as well because
LILY: They are
BONNIE: You want to get data off them you don’t want to lose photos, you don’t want to lose text messages sometimes
LILY: It is a time commitment to go through that stuff involves loading it onto something and going through it
BONNIE: And do you have the technology to actually access that data anymore, which most of us don’t because it just evolves so quickly
LILY: So quickly, I just found my underwater camera the other day
LILY: So, it is just a normal camera in an underwater case, and I was like oh there is photos on here I think and then to find out if there are photos worth printing on there you have to actually pay to go get them printed
LILY: Which everyone use to have to do but yeah it is like the reason that camera was still sitting there is it was a choice to not have to address that problem. It is a pending responsibility.
BONNIE: It is and it is important to you so you don’t want to get rid of the item but it is not such a priority that you actually go and do something about it.
LILY: Yeah and the other thing with tech is of course it could come in handy, it seems wasteful with how quickly we go through technology to just like ditch it,
LILY: And it does cost a bit of coin
BONNIE: It is obviously not something that should go into land fill either it should be something that goes to like an e-waste facility to get recycled.
LILY: And good news for your anonymous caller because there is plenty of e-waste opportunities to dispose of those electronics responsibly, when that day does come.
LILY: So, if you a have a clutter confession feel free to send it head to Little Home Organised and send us a message.
BONNIE: Okay so we are talking about the 5-minute toys, the absolute bane of my life. You might know these toys as McDonalds toys or the cheap Kind of surprise toys.
LILY: Ah ha okay
BONNIE: But there are also other toys that basically only keep your child interested for 5 minutes or less, so it could be something like a tambourine in our house, some kids they might have a tambourine and they love it and they play it death for hours and hours but in our house a tambourine is a 5 minute toy, 2 minute toy really bang it for a little while, then we get sick of it and it just goes on the floor and the 5 minute toys frustrate me because you don’t play with them for more than 5 minutes and then they just end up on the floor, taking up space, creating trip hazards, creating clutter and they don’t usually stimulate imaginative play so like a tambourine is something that if you were a parent that wanted to do like a structured learning experience with them and sit down and do a song together and tap it out, great do that but when you have got something like the McDonalds toy figurines and stuff kids don’t usually use those and play dolly’s with them and play superheros with them not in my experience anyway or in any of the client homes that I have been in. They just don’t hold the attention
LILY: There are other things they will play with over them
BONNIE: Hours and hours
LILY: There is that quick wonder of opening the Kinda surprise or opening up the happy meal putting the toy together, a couple of seconds of play, a couple of minutes of play and then you know maybe you have a kid who plays with it for a few hours and then the next day it is no longer interesting.
BONNIE: And that is the thing a 5-minute toy would be different for every household in some ways, so you need to stop and think what are the toys that my kids pick up and then they drop really quickly. Like a kaleidoscope in our house
BONNIE: It is such a 5 minutes toy and it just hangs around and it is like oh cool, twist, twist, twist drop,
BONNIE: Like that’s how fast it is and it is like why do we have this thing
LILY: Because it is cool and it is interesting and it is a new learning experience, it is sensory, like there are all these perks to these toys but if your home is cluttered, if your toy room is absolutely over flowing then it is time to have a look at those 5 minute things and say okay well which ones of these do we want to keep, you know for education, for learning, for experiences, for toy rotations, for hand me downs, and which ones do we want to actually say goodbye to so that we can reclaim this space. That’s the other thing I notice about you know some toy rooms is there are so many toys in there and there is so much clutter that easily spills out that it is really hard to manage the mess, there could be this capacity for all this space to play but because there is so much stuff the playroom is actually the working room, the moving about room is actually really limiting
BONNIE: Yeah it is and that is what is really frustrating for kids is because when they get something new out, like a building block set they want to be able to spread it out and build things but if they are trying to shove stuff out of the way they are just not interested and it is so interesting anytime we declutter a toy room or a lounge room or a kids bedroom that has had toys in it, the kids will come in there and they will either roll all over the floor or they will spin and spin and spin, they just love open space
LILY: It is funny you mention that because I was looking at a testimonial for your professional organisation business Little Miss Organised the other day and it was of this boy and you were like having a bit of chat to him about how he felt about his bedroom, but he spun around on the floor and I was like classic it is like oh there is space for me to move, create and play in here
BONNIE: Yeah and that’s it, and you know yesterday when I took the 2 year old up to visit our new house that we are moving into which is totally empty um he went into the lounge room which is you standard 5 metre x I don’t know 4 metre lounge room and what did he do he rolled all over the floor
LILY: The simple joys, so Bonnie when you think of working with clients and them having cluttered toy rooms that they are trying to get on top of what do you see as being some of the common issues
BONNIE: So obviously too much is the most important thing, often we have all got too many toys, to much stuff in general and once we declutter that it does make it a lot easier but another thing is we really just need to teach our kids that important life skill of packing up and putting away before we move onto the next thing and they do that at kindy, they do that at school it is something that when you go to a job, your boss wants you to do it, your boss doesn’t want you to have a desk you know completely cluttered and full of stuff so we need to teach it right from 1, 2 year olds that oh that we are finished with this set now, we are going to pack it up, come on help me pop it in the box and then we are going to move onto the next thing, and that is where a toy rotation can come in handy because you can pack that box up put it away and then bring something else out and often I think when we allow kids free reign of the entire playroom, that’s where we do end up with a really big mess at the end of day and kids that are too tired and hungry to clean it up and parents that are worn out and we don’t want to clean it up, so of course the cycle just continues day after day and when we have got way too many toys in there it is so over whelming for us even to think about cleaning it up so decluttering is definitely important but also teaching that very important skill of packing away.
LILY: Yeah and as a parent you are so tired aren’t you and sometimes you just don’t want to be a parent and I don’t mean that in the sense that you don’t want to have the child but a pick part of being a parent is you are a teacher and so that means that you repeat yourself and you are constantly imprinting lessons upon your kids and that is no we are going to finish packing this up before we move onto the next thing, yep lets come on, come in here with me and we will do it together, yep oh we have still got a few more things we need to pack up, I know you are excited to play with that but you see all this Lego over here we still need to put that away and you maybe repeating mantras like that multiple times a day, every day for the nearly 10 years
BONNIE: Nobody ever told me how much teaching I would have to do when I was no longer a teacher,
LILY: That’s it,
BONNIE: Its crazy
LILY: You have signed onto be a teacher, that’s a big part of your role is to educate your child on how to navigate the world and so when it come to teaching them these responsibilities it starts from a very young age, you know you can teach them to when you pull the washing in off the line, say okay you can pick out, I have picked out your clothes can you help me you know maybe fold your socks together, or fold your clothes, or I have folded your clothes you know depending on the age, you can go put them in your draws and sure they will take longer and they may not do it right but those little things we have got to teach them from a really young age and toys are no different like we need to learn that when we create a mess we need to address that mess and put things away, they had their start, we had the play, we have the finish, close it all up, move onto the next thing because otherwise you are going to walk into that toy room and it is going to look like a bomb has gone off and you are busy, you are important, you are tired too, like but if you take the time to imprint those messages on your kids so they do know that they need to clean up after themselves
BONNIE: It will get easier down the track
LILY: It will get easier, it is a lot of hard work in the meantime but it will prevent those situations where you walking in and you think oh my goodness Mr 2 has been let loose in the sewing room and pulled
BONNIE: Everything’s out
LILY: Pulled all of grandmas sewing stuff out.
LILY: Check out Little Miss Organised instagram page and you can see a photo of what Bonnie’s youngest has done in that room.
BONNIE: First time I have had to baby proof in 3 children, was that one.
LILY: He is a force unto his own
BONNIE: He is but we haven’t actually talked out toy jails at all so lets delve into the toy jail side of things.
LILY: Isn’t this episode all about toy jail Bonnie?
BONNIE: It is all about toy jail and other strategies. So toy jail is a strategy that you can use with your kids if they are leaving toys out and this is really good especially if you have decluttered, it is easier for things to pack stuff away but they are still just needing another little strategy to help remind them that hey I cant leave my toys on the floor or outside, so we have used this one at home for maybe 6 months, I do go through phases where I am more strict on it and then other phases where I am a bit more lax on it but it is actually a really great way of A: teaching your kids responsibility but B: getting rid of those 5 minute toys that your kids will tell you they want but they just keep leaving them lying around because they are not really using them. So the idea of toy jail is basically anything that your child has left out and has not been put away goes into toy jail and in our house Sunday nights is when the jail gets emptied
LILY: I love it
BONNIE: And anything still left in the jail gets donated. Now there are 3 ways that the kids can get their toys out of jail. They can rescue them, so first way is they can do a chore so something like wiping the bench after breakfast, they can choose to have a toy out of jail instead of having desert if they have eaten all of their dinner, and the 3rd way is if they do an act of kindness for someone.
LILY: Oh I love that
BONNIE: Yes so it has to be a random act of kindness, like there have been times where someone else has done something kind and I have said oh well done, like you got your water bottle for your brother, like that is so thoughtful thank you so much would you like to go and get a toy out of toy jail and they are like oh yeah yeah and then all of a sudden one of my other kids will bring my water bottle over from the fridge with this really expectant look on their face and it is like sorry sweetheart that is not how it works.
LILY: Spontaneous acts of kindness
BONNIE: And it is really good because it just helps your kids think about others a little bit more and helps them to have a positive framework for why we should be doing things for each other rather than I have got to do something kind for my sibling it is more about just encouraging that internal moral compass which you know our kids really need that.
LILY: So lets say you have decluttered the excess, you are implementing a toy rotation, you are teaching your children responsibility, pack this up when you are finished before you bring out the next thing and then you are encountering this issue where they do still leave toys out or randomly all over the place, you give them little time boundaries, little reminders, you have the little system set up in place for when an item, when they have a chance to put an item back even if you remind them and when something does into toy jail. So don’t just be like the ruthless warden putting things in jail but
BONNIE: Or you can be if that’s what works for you because I do that from time to time
LILY: After a long week, but give them a chance and just make it age appropriate of course and then give them the opportunity to earn those things back and like all things with children whatever you decide to do, be consistent
BONNIE: Yes stick with it, so make sure they know what the expectations are, and make sure you stick with those expectations and make sure that your partner does too because when you have got two parents who are on different pages and oh dad said I could get that out, and then all of sudden you are like but they didn’t earn it, then you have got some issues, so make sure that everybody is on the same page about what the expectations are, how toys get released from jail, and whether you do give a warning or not because sometimes a warning is not necessary because you actually don’t want them to have to rely on you reminding them all the time because as we get older we get less reminders, you know when we are in prep we get a lot of support from our teachers and then when we are in high school we don’t get quite as much molly coddling and handholding and then we are out in the workforce we get even less so our job as parents is to help you know make these kids independent and resilient and help them learn these important life skills that will see them when they are in the workforce and when they are having their own families down the track.
LILY: So hopefully these tips will help you navigate the chaos that can become the toy room and I definitely think in another episode Bonnie and I can go into the nitty gritty of how to organise your toy room so we can make it the most functional playroom that has ever been.
BONNIE: Absolutely, so your tidy task for today is to
1: Declutter your toys, if you haven’t already.
2: Implement a toy rotation system if you think that that is something that would be beneficial, try it out for a couple of months, if it doesn’t work for you feel free to adapt okay everybody is different you need to be flexible and create a solution that works for you and your family and
3: consider doing a toy jail, try it out for a month or two, see how it works for your family and most importantly be consistent.
LILY: That’s it and just a quick reminder if you really want to learn how to get on top of your toy room in fact any room in your house you can of course check out the Essentials Guide our online course just head to our website littlehomeorganised.com.au and that’s it for this weeks episode. Thank you so much for lending us your ears.
BONNIE: And remember PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION.
LILY: See you later
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