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Wrapping Up A Deceased Estate

How do I wrap up a deceased estate? When a loved one passes and you’re left with the task of wrapping up their estate it can be a very difficult time. Dealing with emotions as well as the practical logistics of passing antiques onto family, selling valuables, donating items and disposing of rubbish can feel like an overwhelming task. Join Bonnie + Lily as they give you some simple tricks from the trenches to make wrapping up your loved one’s estate easier. EPISODE SHOW NOTES

Episode Transcript

Hello and welcome I am Bonnie, and I am Lily, and this is Little Home Organised, the PodCast dedicated to helping you declutter, get organized, and reclaim time for the things you love.

LILY: Grandpa use to say it

BONNIE: Yeah, you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can’t pick your friend’s nose.

LILY: Not as profound as I was remembering it to be

BONNIE: No

LILY: Okay, which professional organizers, which if you are in Brisbane Little Miss Organised.

BONNIE: You right there

LILY: Yep, I am all good

BONNIE: Good

LILY: Okay, I am so overtired.

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BONNIE: Hello and welcome; this week, we are talking about wrapping up a deceased estate. We will talk about managing the emotions versus the practicalities of what needs to be done, how to manage all the stakeholders, you know, family members, and how to break the task down to stop the overwhelm.

LILY: Before we start today’s episode, I just want to do a shout out and say thank you to everyone who has rated and reviewed the PodCast so far, and if you are enjoying can you please head over to Apple Podcast and give us a rating and review, it really does help us, and we love to know what content you are loving so that we can provide more of it.

BONNIE: Absolutely

LILY: So in this week’s episode, we are talking about wrapping up a deceased estate

BONNIE: Yes, so the important thing to remember before you actually start wrapping up the estate is to give yourself a little bit of time to kind of help work through the emotional stuff first, like a few years ago, someone sent me this little I guess not even a video, it was like a come-on words, they are failing me, it is getting to that time of day. We will link it in the show notes but it was like an article that talked about the grief button and it basically had an image of a box and a little red button inside the box and a ball bouncing around the box, now the button stays the same size no matter where you are in your grief process but when you first start grieving the ball is huge, so basically anytime this ball is bouncing around in the box it hits the grief button and you get that kind of wave of grief and then as time passes, slowly the ball begins to get smaller usually and so every time it hits the grief button it still hurts just as much as it did when it was fresh but it is perhaps happening less often and so it is a really great analogy for how grief can really affect us and I think it is important when we are wrapping up a deceased estate especially if you are that executor who has been charged to actually do that wrap up that you make sure that you take some self care to help you manage your emotions and help you deal with the logistics and the practicalities of what is really a very daunting and difficult task at times.

LILY: Yeah, it absolutely is a really challenging time. You are going through so much with your grieving process, coming to terms with everything that has happened, and then you have all these logistic considerations as well, wrapping up an estate; that is no small task.

BONNIE: No, it is really not, and before you get to the wrapping up of the actual estate side of things, give yourself the space to breathe, to get through the preliminary stuff, so try and get through the funeral or the celebration service or the cremation service first, once someone has passed and you need to notify people, make sure that you notify family and friends, you seek help for creating that funeral or celebration service and that you actively put out any fires that need to be put out because that person has passed. So, for example, we have been helping with a deceased estate recently, and that person was getting a pension, and you sometimes only have like 14 days to notify the local authority who is paying the pension that that person has passed so that the pension stops getting paid, so find out are there any other sort of entitlements that they are no longer entitled to and notify once you have a death certificate those kinds of places, so it might be like superannuation, insurance, all that kind of stuff, as well as obviously getting the legal advice because only when you have the legal advice about hey this is what the will says and hey this is the person who is the executor in case you didn’t know, these are the beneficiaries, this is how the proceeds need to go when you are selling a house, we have had a client recently who the family member passed away, he was in his mid 90’s and the beneficiary was overseas and of course during this COVID time.

LILY: Oh, that’s tricky, isn’t it.

BONNIE: That is very tricky, and that person couldn’t travel to help wrap up the estate although I don’t think they were in a healthy position to be able to do so anyway, so this client of ours was tasked with kind of being the executor of the estate, but there were all these little balls that had to be juggled because she wasn’t actually the beneficiary, this person overseas was the beneficiary so trying to juggle the legal side of things and basically the liquidation of all of these assets and family members who want to help or family members who would like to take some sort of memorabilia item from the person or the people who have passed, there is a lot to manage so that’s what kind of inspired me to want to talk about this today because I think the more help we can get when we are wrapping up deceased estates the better off we are. You know education is important, being informed is important because when we know, we can do more.

LILY: Absolutely, so if we are at the point where we have gotten through the funeral, we have done those like key things that need to be done straight away, we have informed family and friends, we are now at the point where we are like okay I need to get started on wrapping up an estate. Where do I even begin with that?

BONNIE: Will it’s just like when we do our 5 P’s, Our organizing formula, the first step is always to plan, so when we don’t have a plan then we plan to fail, you know that saying Fail to plan

LILY: Plan to fail

BONNIE: Yeah, it is 100% true

LILY: And very, what the word, that wordy kind of afternoon

BONNIE: It is that kind of afternoon, isn’t it?

LILY: It’s not, oh goodness me, moving on. No, I want to get it, when you, it is depressing, but that is not the word I was looking for

BONNIE: Oh, okay, disheartening

LILY: Like somber, combine somber and disheartening, the English language, we have got too many options.

BONNIE: Alright, somebody is yelling it out to you; just send it to us on Instagram or something

LILY: Just DM us

BONNIE: So the first step is making your plan, so who are the stakeholders that are involved, so what family members need to be involved because maybe it was a parent that passed and you have got siblings that are involved or maybe there are cousins or aunties and uncles or you know like there can be so many people that are involved, so write down who are the stakeholders, who need to be involved in some way, who is going to want to have a say

LILY: Some people won’t, and some people definitely will.

BONNIE: Yeah, and that I think that is honestly the trickiest thing about wrapping up a deceased estate

LILY: Managing the people

BONNIE: Yeah and we actually had some clients a few years ago, like this lady hired us and it was for one of her parents that had passed away and she was there with her daughter and our organiser was working with her directly and then there was another sister who came in, they both came in from interstate and they got into this massive argument and this massive fight to the point where it was really really uncomfortable for our organiser and our organiser basically offered to our client, I think I should actually go, I don’t think me being here is actually very productive and the client was like I am really sorry but I think you are 100% right, like we need to sort this out and we can’t actually do that and you should have to witness this basically so yeah there can be a lot of hostility and volatility involved and especially if there have been divisions in the family previously or this person is not talking to that person or we have cut that person off, or you have different ideas and morals

LILY: I mean, let’s be real, family is complicated.

BONNIE: Oh, we would never pick our family; honestly, I love you but like

LILY: Am I the exception

BONNIE: Yeah, what do they say, you know, you can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your family

LILY: There is a saying that involves your nose

BONNIE: Yeah yeah

LILY: Oh, grandpa used to say it

BONNIE: Yeah, you can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can’t pick your friend’s nose.

LILY: Not as profound as I was remembering it to be

BONNIE: No, but when you are like 7 that is pretty awesome.

LILY: Oh, that’s funny, grandpa.

BONNIE: Yeah, so when you are making this plan, and you have written down who the stakeholders are, then you have actually identified okay. What do I need professional help with? Like is there a lot of rubbish at the property, and we don’t have a trailer, or we don’t have the physical capabilities to get it to the tip.

LILY: So like a company like 1800 got junk would be good

BONNIE: Yeah yeah, 100%. Do you need a professional organizer to help you kind of manage the project because it is so overwhelming? Do you need an auctioneer?

LILY: Yes, if you have some quality heirloom, antiques

BONNIE: Yeah, are there some valuables there and we will go into this a little bit more detail in a minute but actually write down in your plan okay who do I actually I want to be involved from the family side of things and who do I need to outsource some of these professional services to because I just have no idea.

LILY: Yep, and then, of course, when you are making a plan, you need to consider who is going to be notified about the death and how are you going to go about it.
BONNIE: Yeah, so when we were actually wrapping up this estate recently, a washing machine repairman rocked up at the residence because the person who had passed had been having an issue with their washing machine

LILY: Oh, that is so awkward for that man

BONNIE: Yeah and so like in between the last time this person had come and now which was maybe 2 weeks later, yeah the person had passed away, and it was a very sudden passing so it was like not expected and we had to kind of inform this repairman like I am really sorry that this has happened and he was like oh um okay I am going to go back to my boss and because yeah you know the boss needs to make the decision about yeah what we do going forward because it was like one of those organization type services that was funding the change but since the whole property was getting liquidated anyway it was almost like well that might not even be something that needs to be worried about right now.

LILY: Yeah, so many things that you got to consider. So that is kind of part 1, right we want to make a plan. Part 2 is looking at how we are going to manage family members because you do need to manage family.

BONNIE: Yeah, you do, and I think one of the most important steps in managing family members and everybody having their opinion and stuff is making sure that you have open communication and transparent dealings, so have like a Facebook group or a WhatsApp group where you put progress reports in there, and I remember we actually did this in 2016 when two of our grandparents passed, and we were helping go through the stuff in the house, we had this great extended family Facebook group that we still use today where we would put pictures up of particular items and say you know does anybody want this and we had some really great communication going in there

LILY: I think that works really great because it means that everyone feels like they can have a say.

BONNIE: Yeah and particularly our grandpa who passed, he was a woodturner, and he was really handy, and so he had all these beautiful pieces of turned wood that he had made into pots, and pens and you know dishes and like just really cool things, and so that was really nice to make sure all of the grandkids you know got at least one piece that he had handmade and stuff like that, so that was a really great way to not only I guess to wrap up the estate on the stuffed side of things but also make sure that the family members and the people who wanted to keep some of those items whether they were for sentimental reasons or practical reasons of hey yeah that is a couch I will take that because I need a couch, that was really really useful.

LILY: It is considerate, and it is making sure that everybody feels like they have given the option to be connected to that person through a piece of memorabilia or what have you or just by you jumping in there and putting in the group chat and update this is what is happening, you know we have considered options A, B, C and D and we have decided to go with option C for these reasons, we understand some of you probably would have preferred option B, but unfortunately due to this we couldn’t do it, and then everyone is like okay there is a lot of thought that has gone into this, I feel included, you know, and I think that is kind of comes into like what I would say is another point on this one is that you are going to have a lot of opinions, but at the end of the day you still have to have someone who is kind of in charge who gets the final say because in life we are never going to 100% agree with everybody

BONNIE: No, no, that is true

LILY: And this is a time where you don’t want everybody to be having a huge disagreement, so if there are different parties of different thoughts then a decision has to be made, you know there does have to be one person who is in charge and can make the final decision.

BONNIE: Yeah, and that is where having an executor is a really good idea for the legal side of things, but in like our grandparent’s case, you know our mum and our two aunties who are all sisters they were all equally making decisions, and they managed it really really well because they have really good relationships and they talked a lot, and it doesn’t mean that it went perfectly there was always you know a little issue here or there as there will be when emotions are involved and things like that but overall it was a relatively smooth experience that really does come down to that open communication and that good relationship because at the end of the day, the stuff that you are disposing off is just stuff and that doesn’t matter in the long run.

LILY: It doesn’t matter in the long run, and the one thing we know about stuff is that it is heavily intertwined with you know, so we have to be really mindful in this step, making sure that we are doing our best effort to communicate about it so that we don’t lose relationships over what you just say about stuff.

BONNIE: Yeah, that’s right

LILY: So okay, which professional organizers, we which, if you are in Brisbane Little Miss Organised, but which professionals would you engage in this situation at this point in time.

BONNIE: Yeah, so it definitely depends on what your capabilities are and what you are willing to do the work for yourself as the person wrapping up the estate, but you might need to employ someone like an estate auctioneer who can basically take care of the sale of all of the saleable items in the house, and they can sometimes take care of the actual property sale as well, you might need like an antique or an art dealer to help you especially if there are some original paintings, on that note, I just want to mention you know we have this desire to have our parents, and our grandparent’s antiques validated financially, where the market is not really there for that anymore and if you look around on social media and friends houses and stuff, generally speaking, the fashion and the trend is like, bright, Scandinavian type furniture and you know décor and stuff. Whereas 50 to 100 years ago if you got given something at your wedding, you had it forever because A it was good quality

LILY: Yes

BONNIE: But B there wasn’t this kind of ever-changing fashion of the new and the latest whatever.

LILY: It was a part of the family that got handed down from generation to generation

BONNIE: Yes, and when you look back at say the 1950s and you see the magazines that would come out, you know once a month, and they would have like a catalog, women would start to purchase newer items because they would see them in a catalog whereas now we have access to seeing new and advertising type materials like every 5 seconds, if you are on a social media platform you are seeing an ad like very frequently, and you think about driving around your suburb you see ads all the time and in fact, they did a study where they basically said we see more adds in one year now then someone 50 years ago saw in their entire life. So wonder there is this discontent where we constantly look at what somebody else has got and go, oh I want to change what I have got because it is no longer satisfying me, so in a roundabout way, what I am basically saying is that you might think your antiques are really valuable and really priceless, but the market is not actually there for that so much anymore, so it is important to remember that.

LILY: Yeah, unfortunately, being a bit more realistic, you may find that you are not going to get if you are trying to sell it online, Facebook marketplace, gumtree wherever, you may find you are not going to get as much for it, and if you take it to an auctioneer they may tell you that it is not going to get as much as it would have in the past as well.

BONNIE: Yeah, and it is really crazy when you speak to the antique dealers just how much stock is kind of sitting around, and it is really good quality stock, and if you like the taste and the style and the décor there is a lot to be found, but the reality is, antique dealers are turning down a lot of items unless they are kind of really quite rare.

LILY: So another professional you are going to engage, of course, that would be beneficial is a professional organizer; they are going to come in, and they are going to help you go through the whole process.

BONNIE: Yeah, and while and every organizer is different, generally speaking, an organizer is going to work with you to support you at your level, so if you need like a full service of someone help you sit down and make the plan, okay these are the other services we need to engage, this is the timeline. You know, making a bit of a plan and a project together, they will do that. If you just want an organizer who can come and help you with one particular room or one particular category, then they can help you do that. So that is the real benefit of a lot of these services is they will just provide the support that you actually need, not an all or nothing type approach.

LILY: Package deal.

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: And then, of course, like if you have got donations, then what should you do.

BONNIE: Well, a lot of people don’t actually realize with donations how much of that stuff is actually reusable. Like a lot of people will look around a house and go, oh this has all got to go to the tip, but actually no, a lot of it is really good usable stuff, and a charity would love it, and like in the estate that we did recently there was huge amount of linen, and I got in contact with a couple of charities nearby, and all the towels went to a koala rescue organization

LILY: So cool, so Australian

BONNIE: So Aussie right and that would have been 5 garbage bags full, and they actually came and picked it up, which was really helpful, and then there was another animal refuge that we sent 5 bags to of other linen, so it was more like your sheets and your cottons and things like that

LILY: We say this frequently: be mindful when you declutter, like when you go to donate, don’t just chuck things in the bin. You have so many opportunities at different levels, so if you have the good quality towel, you can donate it mindfully to like potentially an organization like Friends with dignity if you know people who are fleeing

BONNIE: A women’s shelter or something

LILY: Yeah, a women’s shelter and then maybe it is a level down and it is a little rattier potentially does that one go the mechanic or maybe it goes to the vet and then maybe down a level again and it is just a rag that you have in your house, or you then decide to take it to the tip, so there is like lots of options for different levels of quality of items.

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: But we can still be responsible about it.

BONNIE: Yeah yeah, we definitely can, and I guess the last thing that we need to kind of think about is do we need to engage in some sort of rubbish removalist to help us with the items that are just, in fact, rubbish.

LILY: Yes, I would be saying if you can afford to, not doing several trips to the tip yourself, it is one of these things that you have to balance up, you know your time, your mental health

BONNIE: And your physical capacity is a factor to

LILY: Especially, very true, so after the break, we will talk about how we are going to start that process and some of the strategies that we would like to touch on as well, Bon.

YOU’VE GOT MAIL.

LILY: It is time for a listener question. Today’s question comes from Nurcan in Coorparoo Brisbane, oh another Aussie, so Nurcan’s question is what is the best way to store stuff in your fridge to get the most out of your vegetables and fruit? Oh, this is a good question.

BONNIE: It is, and I don’t know if I necessarily have the answer because we eat our fruit and veggies really quickly.

LILY: Well, I have some tips, so one of the things that I invested in a couple of years ago was actually a ventilated system of plastics for my fruit and vegetables, and you will find that it increases the lifespan of them by a couple of weeks which is amazing, especially if you are someone who gets irritated when you go buy a bag of spinach from the shops and it doesn’t take long before it goes slimy and gross and you think why do I keep buying this. So putting it in a container with a ventilation system is good, making sure that your fruits and vegetables, if they are in containers, don’t sit in their own juices, so like for example, if you cut up watermelon, pop it into a container, you need to be every couple of days draining the liquid out, and that stops it from sitting and pooling and turning into that.

BONNIE: Or get one of those containers that has got the little inbuilt plastic kind of tray
LILY: Yeah, and you can get real basic ones, from just like your general grocery store, or you can get more flash systems like from Tupperware and things like that.

BONNIE: Mm yeah and the other thing that we do for like our lettuce and our kale and our celery is we wash everything as soon as it comes home so that it doesn’t matter when you grab it out of the fridge, you know that it has already been rinsed off and if you add a little bit of vinegar that will actually really help get rid of any chemical or pesticides if you are not buying organic but we will actually use a tea towel, and we will put a freshly washed lettuce in the tea towel, and it is still a little bit wet, and then it makes the tea towel damp and it just kind of creates this kind of crispness and every couple of days we rinse it again, and it goes back in a little bit damp and it just helps keep those products a little bit longer which is really nice because when your lettuce loses all of its water and it dehydrates it is very sad

LILY: Yeah, it is very limpid. So definitely I would agree with you, we do that for celery we wrap it in a paper towel sorry in a tea towel but then we also actually put it in a plastic bag as well, so there are some options there, I think the most important thing if you are buying fruit and vegetables from the shop is to take it out of whatever the packaging that it is in because you know that was ideal for transport and to the store, but that is not necessarily ideal in your fridge.

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: Another thing is I do see people using glass jars and filling them with water and sticking certain, sticking their celeries and their lettuce and whatever to keep them in there like fresh, so that is something that you can consider as well, just keep in mind that whatever you are doing with your fruit and vegetables in your fridge you need to make sure that you haven’t got meat where it can drip on top of the other stuff if it was to melt.

BONNIE: Yes, refer back to one of our very first episodes, How to organize your kitchen like a Chef, because Chef Chayil actually gave us the whole list of how you should organize your fridge with your meet being down the bottom so that it doesn’t actually trip onto your vegetables which was kind of a revelation for me I have to admit but whatever you do in organizing your fruit and vegetables make sure it is uniform because if you have got 5 different types of containers nothing is going to sit very well next to each other, it needs to be uniform because it is going to look better, but you will also maximize your space

LILY: Optimise your space

BONNIE: Exactly

LILY: So yeah, hopefully, that helps, and if you have a listener question, we would love to hear it, so head to our Facebook page, Little Home Organised, and send it in.

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BONNIE: Okay, so we are talking about wrapping up a deceased estate, and when you start the process of actually getting into the stuff, the first step is to make sure that everybody who is a family member or a close friend who would like to take something as a memorabilia item has had that opportunity if you are the executor of that estate. So have a party if you like at the premise and invite everybody over but it is important to allow people that time if that is available and it is not financial, we have to liquidate everything to recover debt or something.
LILY: Yeah, give them the opportunity, and I think another thing that is important in this process Bon is like people are coming in and yes they are making a decision on things that they would like that maybe remind them of the person who is now deceased but also it is an experience to go down memory lane too.

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: And so that can be a really nice process for that person to be engaged in when they come in and they look through all the belongings and be with family and so it important for several reasons but it can be an important part of the healing process as well being with people who are also experiencing that grief

BONNIE: And you are all sharing that emotion together, which is a bit like having awake, but it is just a different kind. There is a couple of strategies that you can employ if you are wrapping up deceased estate, so first strategy is you remove all the rubbish and all the clutter, and you just leave all of the valuables that you want to liquidate behind for an estate auctioneer to assess, appraise, catalog for sale in situ, so there are some auctioneers who will come and sell all the items as they stand in the house, but you just remove all the rubbish and the clutter, so all the donatables first.

LILY: So that is option 1

BONNIE: That is option 1, so option 2

LILY: Is the opposite right?

BONNIE: Yeah, where you basically assess and catalog all the valuables, remove them from the home, and then everything that is left is just something that is donate able or rubbish

LILY: I think I would like that. I feel like you could go in and be like these are the things that I intentionally want to keep and then walk out the door. You know, if you are really like struggling, grieving that there is just like a lot going on, which they’re generally is around someone death, then just being able to say these are the things that are going and everything else can be like dealt with

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: I love that strategy.

BONNIE: Yeah, and option no 2 works really if you are using a professional organizer to help you because they can help set up the sale with the auctioneer, and then once that stuff is gone, you have basically said to them look free reign on the rest of it, you do with it

LILY: You determine which charity that goes to

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: I know that I have taken what I want, what is important to me.

BONNIE: Yeah, and we have taken the items that are worth anything to be sold, and then obviously your 3rd strategy is just actually a combination of steps 1 and 2 because you may find that there needs to be a little bit of both. A little bit of column A, a little bit of column B in the mix.

LILY: One thing that I wanted to real quickly throw into the mix for people who may have a loved one who is in their later years of life but has not yet passed away, we were talking earlier about like cataloging, like having those things around the house that are special and we have mentioned this before, not on this episode though, one of the things that I found really great was that you spent time when our Oma was in her later years going around and saying where would you like this to go? Where is this going to go? And like it was being documented. So that cross stitch is going here, and that painting is going here, so if you are at a position where you know, this is in your near future, engaging with that person to help them make the wishes for where those items are going to go and speaking to family members ahead of time can also help you through this process too.

BONNIE: Yeah, and that was actually her idea to have this bequeath list. She had said to me at various points of that is going to that person and would like this, and it got to the point where I said, well, I am going to take a photo of all these things and catalog it, and she was like yeah that is a great idea, and so it really helped with the tidy up of her estate when she was moved into high care in a nursing home, we could easily oh yeah well that is going that person and everybody knew what was coming to them and it just made the process a whole lot easier.

LILY: A whole lot easier. So you may want to sell things, what are some things that people should know.

BONNIE: So if you are going to be selling items and you do need some help, an auctioneer is a great way and every auctioneer is different so just ring around and find someone that you click with, who can really support you through this process, sometimes they will sell them in situ in the house and sometimes you will have to actually take items to them, same thing for art and for antiques dealing but what I have tended to find in the last kind of 5 – 8 years is that they don’t have the time to just come out to the house anymore and take a look around, like they are just too busy, they are too time poor there is not enough money in it so what they generally want to do is either do like a zoom call with you or a Facetime call with you where you can video and show them stuff or they want you do a bit of a catalogue, so say you have got a bunch or original artworks find out who the painters are, take photos of the paintings and the signatures, created up a little bit of a photo catalogue, send it through to a couple of art galleries nearby or fine art dealers or auction houses and then they can tell you which pieces they are interested in and what sort of price that they might be going for because art like the antiques are subjective. It is very subjective, and they are generally not going to sell artwork unless they are by kind or really notable artists, true.

LILY: Okay, so donating items we were talking about briefly before, what are some of the things that we need to keep in mind about donating.

BONNIE: Get informed, what is donatable, what is actually rubbish and sometimes something might not be donatable to a charity, but it might be a freebee that someone would love, so that is where you can use your online platforms like gumtree or craigslist or Facebook marketplace

LILY: As soon as you add free, people will come flocking.
BONNIE: Yeah, they really do, and then the great thing about having like the rubbish removal right at the end of the process is that if for some reason that stuff hasn’t been picked up, the rubbish removal place can pick it up, and it can go to a local tip shop or to be recycled or to be on-sold at their premises.

LILY: Little Miss Organised has a donation cheat sheet, so if you head to the website and just search for donation cheat sheet, it has a list as well which can give you some ideas of where specific items can go, and that help you in the process if you are in Brisbane or in the nearby region.

BONNIE: Yeah, it also has some ideas that be used kind of globally,

LILY: Yeah, you can apply it to your own local place, yeah for sure

BONNIE: So just in terms of the donations, a really quick thing that I wanted to just throw out there for people is some places to donate that you may not have thought of, so say you have got toiletries, contact your local refuge, whether it is a homeless shelter or women’s refuge they love that stuff, if you have cleaning products that are leftover, contact a local cleaning company, hey come and pick up all this cleaning stuff if you could like it. Good quality towels might go to a women’s refuge or to an op shop for sale. Poor quality towels that have rips and stains might go to the vet or the animal shelter like we have mentioned. Other poor-quality linens can go to your local mechanic for rags. They love that. If you do have those large items, offer them for free online, as we mentioned, and sometimes if you are in a busy area, you can stick them on the curb if your council allows it.

LILY: Okay, so let’s say we want to remove rubbish. What are the different options we have with rubbish removal?

BONNIE: So there’s 3; basically, you can get a skip bin which you pay like per day, and you fill it yourself. You can buy a skip bag depending on where you are

LILY: A bit smaller

BONNIE: Ah no, sometimes but

LILY: still like big enough that they go on your lawn

BONNIE: Yeah, like the ones we use are 3 x 3 x 3, so they are still pretty big

LILY: Oh yeah, that ???????

BONNIE: And you can still feel like a fair bit of concrete and heavy stuff in there, and then the third option is like someone to do a rubbish pick up like 1800 got junk. Where they actually bring the manpower to do the heavy lifting for you.

LILY: And women power

BONNIE: Yes, actually, there are some female employees that work there as well. So if you have issues with lifting stuff, that is definitely the option I would suggest.

LILY: Alright, so let’s say you are ready. The day has come where you are at the house ready to wrap everything up; what are some of the things that we should remember.

BONNIE: So communicate your plan with all of the helpers who are coming on the day, make sure that you delegate so for example recently we said okay this person is focusing on all the linen, this person is focusing on all the clothes, this person is focusing on the kitchenware, and then the books and everybody has their own category and then they can go around the house and make sure that they have kind of gathered everything up in that category and especially if you have already removed the items that family members want or the items that are saleable, it is a lot easier to kind of do that process and on that note, check things, check handbags, check luggage, check your mattresses

LILY: check pockets

BONNIE: Check your books; it is amazing

LILY: The treasures you will find

BONNIE: Yeah, a client recently found $50,000 in gold in a safe that they didn’t know about that was hidden under a floorboard, so yeah

LILY: Hot dang

BONNIE: Hot dang indeed. Check everything. You rip those mattresses up, no no, no don’t do that, but yeah, just check all your books and things like that for any hidden goodies.

LILY: So that is a lot of information, but it is super practical if you are in this position in life at the moment. If you are struggling with making some of the decisions are you go through this person’s stuff something that we have available that is a free resource for you is our decision making tree, you can just head to our website littlehomeorganised.com.au and see on our homepage that we have a link there for our decision making tree and basically it is a tree of decisions that you follow all the way down to kind of help you figure out if you keep or throw or donate something so hopefully, that can help you if you are feeling a little bit stuck as well.

BONNIE: And this week’s tidy task is all about if you are in this situation to wrap up a deceased estate make sure that A you work out the legal stuff first, who is the executor, what does the will say, and all that sort of thing, and then reach out to your family and outsource to professionals for help and then make your plan, work out who needs to be involved, what needs to happen, what is the timeline and of course give yourself a breather if there is no urgency.

LILY: Well, that is it for this week’s episode. Thank you so much for tuning in.

BONNIE: And remember PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION.

LILY: See you later

BONNIE: Bye

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